Everyone’s a Critic

“Who gets to watch the watchers?”…indeed George (Cain), who?….Is that the lone reason sports media critics exist?…so that someone can watch (and comment) on those who cover the games?…I’m not sure….Why, as sports fans, do we need to read(listen to) someone tells us what we just saw?…we have our own opinion(s)…isn’t that good enough?

Boston has a long history of critics reporting on the sports media scene…Jack Craig of The  Boston Globe invented the position with a regular column and a national voice in The Sporting News…He was followed by Jim Baker of The Boston Herald and over the years a host of others that have now jumped online…Bruce Allen, Dave Scott and most recently Cain and Ryan Hadfield have taken up the mantel of those who dissect the sports landscape…But why?…As a visitor to the Boston University Sports Journalism Seminar series, Cain, who regularly contributes to Boston Sports Media Watch went on to say “It’s good to know this person is more trusted, this one is right down the middle, you’re getting the facts”….

Reasonable enough methinks…but can’t we just change the channel, turn the page, switch the dial if we don’t like (agree with) whatever is being put out there?….it’s no secret sports fans love to argue, love to voice an opinion…I wonder if those who “watch the watchers” need an expertise of their own…”I was just like you guys, recounted Hadfield, I used to do yard work on Saturdays with my dad, I was like eleven years old and listen to sports talk radio and yeah I wanted to voice my own displeasure or pleasure with whatever was going on in the media at that time.”…Is that all it takes?….apparently…that and a platform…

I’ll be honest…as someone who was regularly roasted and toasted by the sports media critics i may be too close to the issue…or maybe i’m just trying to get even!…. but just stick to the cardinal rule – tell me something i don’t already know…

And finally, on a totally unrelated subject, if you will remember, two weeks ago i talked (in class)  about one of the keys to being successful in whatever endeavor you choose, be it a journalist or not, was to find the one thing you do better than anyone else….I repeat, you may not know what that is but there is something inside you that you just do instinctively better….let me offer for your perusal, the case of Stephen Wiltshire…i think this makes my point….

16 Comments

Tyler Murray posted on October 10, 2011 at 4:58 pm

Do people have the right to criticize the media if they haven’t done the job before? In a vacuum, it’s a tough question to answer. But with a guy like Ryan Hadfield, the answer is an obvious “no.” He shared his criticisms of several on-air hosts (Gary Tanguay, Tony Massarotti, etc.), but after listening to him ramble on for what seemed like four hours, I concluded that Ryan must know very little about what it takes to be a successful broadcaster. He could hardly put three or four sentences together without changing his train of thought.

I couldn’t write this down verbatim, but when Ryan was asked about how he criticizes someone like Scott Zolak, who he has a decent relationship with, he answered with something like: “I mean…with Scott…would I have a situation there where I could…you know…I mean would I be less inclined to criticize him? That’s where you get into something where…well I don’t know yeah maybe it would be a problem but…yeah don’t forget to build good relationships with the athletes, kids!”

I could hardly follow what he was saying, mostly because of that disgusting thing he kept doing with his tongue. I’m shuddering just thinking about it. Bottom line: Ryan seemed like a good guy, but he’d make a terrible on-air personality, which gives him no right to criticize those who do have jobs in the field.

On the other hand — give me a current or former journalist, and I’ll listen to their critiques without question. Media critics can be useful in my opinion, if only for the purpose of keeping columnists in check (not that Bob Ryan reads Boston Sports Media Watch). Some writers are often guilty of presenting outlandish opinions unopposed, and I think critics can help columnists improve their work in terms of honesty and consistency.

I also think people like to read and complain about articles and broadcasts for the same reasons they call in to talk radio shows and complain about their teams. Everybody is reading and watching together, and people like to feel involved in the grand community of fans.

josh posted on October 11, 2011 at 9:22 am

I think it was pretty much unanimous last week that the athlete/reporter seminar was our best one yet. I’m going to go out on a limb and assume the complete opposite will be felt about this week. It was just tough to get into what George Cain and Ryan Hadfield had to say. Maybe the well was already poisoned by Professor Shorr’s admitted bias, but I think it’s more than that.

The only reason I can think of to answer “why did we have this discussion?” is to point out that someone is “watching the watcher” as Cain put it. Other than that the only valid point I got was “Don’t fall in love with the rockstars.” And that was from a movie I’d already seen, and echoed what Bruschi said last week about not going into locker rooms as a fan.

In response to Professor Shorr’s comment about Stephen Wiltshire, is it completely unrelated? Are our guests the best at what they do? Are they successful at it? I think your point gets to the very matter we were discussing, what qualifies them to be critiquing professionals whose jobs they can’t relate to. Tyler’s description about Ryan Hadfield’s train of thought is an excellent example of this. I remember that exact exchange and thinking to myself “what the hell did he just say?”

The disconnect between our presenters and the people they cover was never more evident than the discussion about the Red Sox and the locker room drinking. They both basically said breaking that story would have been worth the fallout a beat reporter had with the team. I forget who in class brought it up but they pointed out that this essentially would lead to a job loss because the team would no longer talk to that reporter and as a beat reporter what good are you then?

I can’t completely bash Cain and Hadfield though. I think they brought up a valid point about how they try to keep a balance in objectivity, especially in cases where teams have a staked interest. For instance the Red Sox hand in WEEI or the Bruins in NESN. I don’t completely discredit what the watchdog can do to help keep the business in line, I would just feel more comfortable if it was someone who had been there and done that.

Rick Sobey posted on October 11, 2011 at 12:29 pm

The seminar last week taught me that certain media critics don’t totally understand journalism, which is a huge problem when they decide to rip the media for its actions or inactions. When Ryan Hadfield was talking about the Red Sox collapse and said he would have definitely broken the “beer story” during the regular season, I could only think of the ramifications of breaking that story. There would be too much on the line for the reporter, as he or she would lose access and sources in the clubhouse; the costs completely outweigh the benefits. The fact that Hadfield said he would write up that story shows me his misunderstanding of journalism and working a locker room. As Tyler already mentioned, journalists should be able to critique their counterparts (“give me a current or former journalist, and I’ll listen to their critiques without question”), but non-journalists have no idea what it takes to be a reporter.

Furthermore, this seminar was representative of today’s technological age when anybody in the world can throw out their opinions for the public to see. There are no longer strict barriers to getting a byline, which can present some problems for hard working and credible journalists. For example, what if Hadfield writes a column where he criticizes particular journalists for not reporting the “beer story” and some of the ill-informed public listens to Hadfield? Then, the public starts to believe that the credible writers are wrong to do that, and the public begins to question the writers’ integrity as a whole. This is all because of how Hadfield doesn’t understand a locker room, and the public doesn’t understand how important sources are in the clubhouse. Hadfield would be misleading the public. Media critics, like Hadfield, wouldn’t be improving the journalists’ work; the media critics would just be making it harder for journalists when the journalists are going about their job in the best way possible.

Ultimately, it all comes down to the editors and producers at these newspapers, TV stations, and radio stations. It is the editors’ and producers’ job to monitor their reporters, and if their reporters are not doing a good job, then the reporters will be gone. These media critics should become editors and producers, so they can actually control what the media is putting out there. The reporters’ tendencies will not be impacted if the media critics are spewing out opinions from afar. If the media critics want any impact on the reporters’ work, the media critics have to join a publication or network.

Now, there was one legitimate argument from the media critics during the seminar. The critics said how they look at the media relationships with athletes and also team management, and I think this can be very important to point out. How much is the reporter being a puppet for the general manager? How independent is this journalist? I believe that these are reasonable questions to ask about reporters, but that is all these media critics should monitor; when they haven’t experienced the profession firsthand, they are unable to truly analyze the performance of the media members.

Joe Parello posted on October 11, 2011 at 4:20 pm

I actually thought this seminar was very interesting and really taught me a great deal about media criticism. Before this class I had read Boston Sports Media Watch numerous times, but I don’t think I ever really “got it” until last week. Now, do these guys have the right to criticize the media when they themselves have not performed the same jobs? Well, does a member of the media have the right to criticize LeBron James when they themselves have never played pro basketball?

I think the answer for media critics is the same as it is for the media. Sure, it would certainly help your credibility if you have performed the job you are speaking about in the past, but if you are close to the industry and have sources, I appreciate the input. That certainly does not mean they are always right but, after taking in this seminar, I have decided I am going to use them as more of a “full disclosure” button.

They mentioned a writer that went fishing with Josh Beckett. I didn’t know that. For normal people it is difficult to keep all the relationships and connections in the media straight. So I do think there is a place for media criticism, especially if they point out things like blatant favoritism towards a certain player from a writer that has a relationship with him.

As a final thought, I feel the seminar showed that media critics do not know everything about what is going on in the media, but I do think they can give a proper context to things given the fact that they follow the media so closely. Think of it as a beat reporter pointing out that the new GM hired by the Red Sox is drinking buddies with John Henry. The reporter has certainly never built a professional sports team, but him pointing that out gives context to the hire and may help us understand why it is being made. Similarly,I think media critics can give us some context of relationships and help us understand why a certain columnist may have taken a certain position.

Margot posted on October 11, 2011 at 5:19 pm

I’m leaning towards some of the opinions expressed by Tyler and Josh. Not only was this the least interesting seminar to date for me, I also don’t think that I got very much out of it. I guess I just don’t see the purpose of the role of media critics, to be honest. I guess, and I tried to get at this with my question about its relevance in other less sports oriented cities, that I don’t think it’s particularly useful. Perhaps in Boston and New York where some sports media members are quasi-celebrities, but overall this profession just seems irrelevant.

This may sound harsh, but I feel like people who end up as media critics are those who can’t hack it as actual journalists. These critics do no reporting of their own, they merely comment on the reporting of others.

I was shocked that Ryan was so adamant about how the beat reporters for the Red Sox should have reported the story about players drinking beer in the club house. If I had been in that position, there’s no way that I would have risked my relationship with my players and my reputation as a journalist. Ryan tried to backtrack by saying that he mostly critiques columnists and not beat writers, but he said it himself, he’s not in the locker rooms. As a result he has no idea what actually goes on in there, no sense of the delicate balance that goes into a relationship between an athlete and a member of the media.

I also don’t feel like they were able to successfully defend why they are in a position to be critiquing the media. It seems like we all feel similar: how can these people judge a profession they have no experience doing? I feel like they are about as qualified to do so as I am to critique art. I suppose I just don’t see what these people do as helpful or even contributory. If I was a writer covering a sports team, I don’t think I would be particularly concerned with what some other “writer” was saying about my work, because where would it end? Does there need to be somebody to critique the critique of the media? It just seems like it becomes less informative and more of a way for readers to have their opinion either validated and contradicted, which just creates more noise.

Craig Meyer posted on October 11, 2011 at 11:51 pm

It’s easy to see why the topic of sports media critics is important in modern sports journalism, especially for all of us who hope to become sports journalists. As the title of Prof. Shorr’s blog post indicates, there are always critics and that trend seems to be exceptionally true in sports journalism, particularly with the immense popularity of websites like Boston Sports Media Watch. These websites don’t exist to produce original content or reporting, but to merely evaluate and find flaws in the sports media landscape.

Media critics are certainly a part of the sports journalism landscape, but the question has to be asked – why are they here and why are they popular? To some extent, their existence is justified and entirely necessary. Cain brought up the idea of “watching the watchdogs” and I think that is something that rings true. Sports journalists have the responsibility of reporting on teams and sports in an objective and fair fashion, and it’s important that they are held accountable in some way, shape or form. This is not to imply that sports journalists are irresponsible, far from it in fact. But as Rick and others brought up, reporters (especially those around given teams and players almost every day of the year) can sometimes be too close to those they are covering. It’s very possible for a reporter to have personal and emotional attachments to certain players and coaches, something that can cloud their better judgment and journalistic discretion. Even if journalists don’t pay attention or give credence to what these media critics are saying — which both panelists acknowledged as being the case — it’s still important for people to be call journalists out on potential wrong-doing.

However, there is a fundamental flaw with such media criticism, something that several people like Tyler and Prof. Shorr have mentioned — most of these people have never done the work of those they are criticizing. We’ve discussed numerous times this semester how sports journalism is a far more taxing, tenuous profession than most people realize and I think these sports media critics have to be included with this group. I don’t think this unfair, unsubstantiated criticism applies as much to sports radio hosts and commentators, who do effectively what these media critics do — sit back and discuss issues from a distance (except for those who are regularly around locker rooms and teams). It’s perfectly acceptable that the opinions be examined and picked apart because, more often than not, opinions are open to interpretation and dissent.

But while both panelists mentioned that they don’t go after beat writers, they went out of their way to criticize the way that the Red Sox beat writers handled the clubhouse incident with players drinking beer. As other comments have noted, the media critics displayed their ignorance on the delicate inner-workings of a beat when they said they would have reported about the drinking players. Had they done that, they would have lost sources, been restricted in access and would have effectively lost all the tools they would need for the job. It’s one thing to criticize people for making mistakes, but it’s another to criticize without fully knowing how a given job works (then again, that doesn’t stop many of us from criticizing politicians, musicians, business leaders, etc.).

As long as people pay close attention to sports and the media that covers these sports, there will be critics because people like to come together to discuss what they like and don’t like about the coverage they receive. It creates a sense of community among sports fans and the very people that sports journalism looks to inform and keep up-to-date with the coverage it provides.

Lacey posted on October 12, 2011 at 12:06 pm

I assume that when people are attending a seminar to speak, they will have something worthwhile and cohesive to say. In this instance, I was wrong. Sitting through this seminar with “critics” George Cain and Ryan Hadfield, I realized the simple notion that anyone can be an assertive, opinionated “critic.” You do not have to be an expert in the area you are examining, you do not need to be a professional in the same field that you are critiquing and evidently, you do not even need to understand the basic principles of what (in this case) the reporters, columnists and commentators are discussing. Just throw something on the blogosphere wall, watch it stick and know some sap is going to be inane enough to plop down and read what is being written. As the saying goes, “There’s a sucker born every minute,” and it appears that Hadfield and Cain are aiming to incite and entice those sorts of people for emotional responses.

When the seminar did begin, I found the biggest issue to be that neither one of the men could answer a question without fading off, laughing the question off, talking about something completely irrelevant and then at times, just ignoring the question. It was like watching children on “Kids Say the Darndest Things.” But at least those kids were funny and attempted to answer honestly…Hadfield really struggled with both of those concepts. I feel at this point in the post that I ought to separate George and Ryan. First off, Cain knew when to stop talking and let Ryan, Mr. Overeager-to-hear-himself-talk, take control and quickly drive himself into a barrage of walls. You would think that all the graves the kid kept digging himself, he could have successfully stuffed his inflated ego into one of them and shut up. But no, he just kept on yabbering away. The never ending blah blah blahs that streamed from his mouth made me realize this again: Anyone can be a critic. And in our own rights, the majority of our class could be much better and more knowledgeable than either of these two men, especially Hadfield, in critiquing sports journalism.

If I did come away with something from this seminar (besides ‘Anyone can be a critic’) it is that when people title themselves something, i.e., Ryan Hadfield “the Critic,” it is only to be taken at face value. I mean honestly, I think all of Hadfield’s credibility flopped immediately when he said that a. he was starting to take journalism courses “just like us,” making each student in that class room qualified to take his position as a “sports critic,” and b. would have published a silly story about the Red Sox locker room antics that served no purpose except to potential ruin a reporter’s career and to get readers to follow him through a flashy, unsubstantial article. That’s not journalism, that’s not criticism, it’s self-promotion. When you start throwing controversial statements around just for comments on a website (both talked about how many comments they got on various stories with the same swelling pride as if they had been awarded the Pulitzer), you’ve lost all respectability as a viable reporter, critic, whatever the hell he is calling himself…just awful form really.

As for George Cain, he admitted that being a “critic” was fun and that he had a real, full-time job unrelated to the sports journalism field. I’m not sure if I should be put off by this or pleased that he was so open and loose about being a “critic.” My gut instinct tells me to be appalled. And my rationale for that is there are people entitling themselves as critics who are basically saying, wait for it, “anyone can be a critic.” That’s disturbing. I mean, how many times have you heard a neurosurgeon say that anyone can perform a Craniotomy or a Lumbar discectomy? Probably no one besides a trained professional or a brain surgeon as they are commonly referred to. So in elementary theory, people need to have the expertise or training in a specific field in order to successfully perform a job. From doctors to critics, you need to support your abilities through credibility.

What it boils down to is that these two men do not have real jobs as critic, they are if anything, writing enthusiasts. They have no background in the subject matter and both men have different occupations that occupy their time. At best, George and Ryan are two guys with computers, free time and a source for posting their work. Wow.

So if anything, right now I’m being a “critic” too by judging their work and performance at the seminar. But I have actual journalism experience and have worked in the field before…thus making me a better critic? It’s absurd really the directions one can go in to say they can critique people, teams, events etc. The one final thought I have on this confusing subject is this: Where does the line between professional critic and playtime critic get drawn? If I’m a self-labeled “critic” and these guys are just the same, then who isn’t? You’d be just as informed reading what these men write on Boston Sports Media Watch than if you headed down to a barber shop ala Coming to America style and listen to people having a regular conversation about sports. That parallel between joking around with friends in a social setting and being a “professional” critic commenting online is comical. If anything, it does not bode well for the job title.

Lee posted on October 12, 2011 at 1:34 pm

I feel compelled to defend the merits of having a seminar on media criticism after reading the blog post, and reading the comments. Tyler is 100% right about Ryan. I had no clue where he was going with any of his points, he could never do the jobs he criticizes on a regular basis, and he had no clue why it might be difficult to report a story like the beer in the Boston clubhouse.

Ryan is not a journalist. He has no journalistic training and he has no idea what it takes to properly report a story. I mentioned to Professor Shorr after class that Richard Deitsch from Sports Illustrated is somebody who could do the profession more justice. He strikes a wonderful balance between the jobs of journalist, and consumer advocate. He looks to find contradictions and irregularities in reporting; much the same way John Stewart keeps an eye on political news television. The difference in credibility between Deitsch and people like the two who spoke in the seminar, is that Deitsch is a journalist. He holds himself to the same strict editorial standards he expects out of the people he covers, and is also edited by top level editorial staff at Sports Illustrated.

The two who spoke to us really gave the impression that they are just flipping on the tv or radio, seeing and hearing something that bothers them, and blogging about it. A real media critic will make the phone calls to both sides of a story, seek comment from those he calls out, and also seek comment from the folks who employ the people he calls out.

I just got the feeling that we as a class didn’t get a true representation of what a media critic actually is, because we spoke to a part time writer/full time sports fan, and a part time blogger/part time journalism student who happen to hold a pulpit.

Having the attitude of ‘why can’t you just change the channel if you don’t like it’ is exactly what consumer advocacy seeks to root out.

If one super market is selling recalled eggs, should you just go to a different supermarket? If a politician is lying to a group of potential voters, should you just vote for somebody else the next time around?

Sports, you might say, isn’t as important as politics or public health, so maybe we can afford to just let it go and change the channel. But the NFL is a 9 billion dollar annual company. ESPN is owned by the Walt Disney Company which is a 40 billion dollar annual company, and has multi-billion dollar interest in many of the subjects ESPN covers. The money involved in sports is on a level similar to the financial sector.

For example, if a person covering AIG or Goldman Sachs for the Wall Street Journal was being told not to expose white-collar crime because the paper had a corporate partnership with the company, I would want to know that as a consumer.

For the same reason I want to know why ESPN isn’t breaking the Lebron James story before their 1-hour “Decision” special, or why all of the conference realignment is going on at a time when ESPN is launching the Longhorn Network and other ventures.

The media critic is looking out for the viewer, or the consumer, in an industry where real money is on the line. What I find troubling is that our image of this watchdog is a guy who couldn’t put a thought together, and another guy who’s bio described him as an avid follower of sports. In this case, I ask everyone to hate the players, and not the game.

Media criticism is vital. If we are going to consider sports journalism news, and not just entertainment, I expect to be protected just like I would be in any other sector of the industry.

David posted on October 12, 2011 at 2:28 pm

I think that Tyler hit the nail on the head with his comment. It was difficult to sit through the seminar, mainly because the discussion turned into a mixture of the previous four seminars, centering on the ideas of relationships and the media’s role when it comes to sports reporting.

The reaction I had to last week’s seminar regarding sports critics after listening to Ryan’s responses, was similar to the reaction the principal had to Billy Madison’s rant on the Puppy who lost its way.

“Mr. Madison, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.” The principal said. “At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

The above quote may be a little harsh. But as Tyler pointed out in his comment, the two critics were unable to give a clear, consistent answer to professor Shorr’s questions, which is why the discussion spiraled into repetition.

Ryan distinguished between the types of stories he would and would not criticize saying that he would not criticize A. Sherrod Blakely’s game stories but would criticize columnists. It is about controlling the narrative.

They also made a nice points about recognizing the “tie-ins,” sighting the relationship between Peter Gammons and Theo Epstein as an example and about how in Boston, “when you rip the team you receive a negative response and when you rip the media you receive a positive response.”

Nothing about the seminar convinced me that critics are in a position to knowledgeably criticize those who put in the proper amount of time and effort. When I look back on the seminar, I wont remember it as a lesson about sports media critics, but more a lesson on sports media in general.

As far as what this means for the future of Sports Media: Critics will continue to exist and give their opinions, whether they are warranted or not.

Nick posted on October 12, 2011 at 11:07 pm

I think more interesting than the seminar this week has been reading the comments from everyone. Yeah, the seminar may not have been the succinct of the semester, but to call out Professor Shorr on a bias and quote Billy Madison is surprising. I think last week’s seminar wasn’t useless as others in the class thought. It brought up a lot of good questions about ethics – and the stories this past week with the Red Sox were perfectly timed in that regard.

That story has already been touched on enough in the comments, so I’ll spare the plot and throw in my two cents. The guys at BSMW have a right to question the motives of beat writers in the Sox locker room. From a neutral party (which face it, none of us aspiring journalists in this class are) the beat writers had a job of reporting on news going on with the Red Sox and helping to paint a picture of why this dominant team was having such a historic collapse. By not reporting on the lack of professionalism in the clubhouse, the journalists appear to be TOO friendly with the team to the point of protecting them, and TOO scared of the consequences to the point that they can’t fulfill their duties. On the other hand, the journalists also have a job of separating private stories from the playing field and what goes on in the clubhouse is intended to be kept away from glaring eyes. Either way, the situation is a difficult one to resolve.

When the issue of whether Boston beat writers should have reported the issue during the season was brought up in class, I immediately thought of one thing: Steve Wilstein. In 1998, Wilstein, an AP sportswriter, first broke the news that Mark McGwire was using Andro – a form of steroid. Wilstein broke a “cardinal” rule of sports journalism: he snooped around McGwire’s locker to find incriminating evidence and revealed a secret that other reporters at the time wouldn’t have brought up, out of courtesy to McGwire.

When the story broke, instead of Wilstein getting laurels for intrepid reporting, he was shunned by the baseball community – players, managers, front office, and fellow reporters. He was also slighted by the fans for tarnishing what was an otherwise magical home run race that made many fall in love with baseball again after the bitter 1994 strike. By the end of the season, Wilstein’s story was an afterthought to Big Mac’s 70 homers, but in due time the story opened the door to a new era in the game. The slow and painful transition out of the steroid era started with the story and it’s only within the past few years that Steve Wilstein has gotten the recognition he deserved.

Just as with the Red Sox story of the past week (which will only heat up even more thanks to the Globe’s front page article today), the ethics over Wilstein’s story are still being debated. Clubhouse dramas and secrets are no doubt newsworthy stories, but are they something a beat writer has a responsibility to report on?

The guys from BSMW, along with other media critics, think that they are, but it’s only an opinion of George Cain or Ryan Hadfield or whoever else writes the article; it should not be taken as the word of God. More importantly, the work of media critics bring up the complex questions of morals in journalism and who was right and wrong on any given topic.

And it’s for that reason that this past week’s seminar was important to all of us.

(By the way, those stories about people with super memory skills are always interesting to me. I’ve wondered how the human mind can be so expansive to a few but so limited to most. What was the reason for bringing the video up? Was it on TLC this week or something?)

David Lombardi posted on October 12, 2011 at 11:29 pm

Well, I caught a bad case of the flu so I wasn’t able to attend this particular seminar, so I wanted to wait for what others in the class had to say about it. Pardon me for any inaccuracies since I wasn’t there, but I have a couple of opinions regarding Professor Shorr’s blog and what others have commented before me.

First of all, it’s hard for me to respect someone who makes their living criticizing others for an activity that they have never partaken in. I see exceptions to this in sports talk radio and columns – those are two media in which listeners and readers are being courted to create an entertainment-oriented, “discussion”-type atmosphere and not an academically critical one. Stirring the pot is necessary in those fields.

In other lines of work, though, I don’t being so disconnected flies. In my desired field, play-by-play, most criticism of athletes is reserved for the color announcer, someone who has actually played the sport before. Certain MLB play-by-play announcers who have never played baseball, such as Jon Miller, have developed the ethos to be able to blatantly criticize players because they have called games for so long, but the general rule of thumb is that the play-by-play voice sticks to description of the game while the criticism is handled by someone with actual experience.

I think the same rules should apply to critics of the media. Someone who is not fit to call a game and doesn’t know how difficult it can be is not the one best suited to be a “watchdog” of announcers. A sports media watch is a noble idea, but the job must be performed by someone with sufficient ethos. It’s a job for someone who has performed in the position(s) that he is critiquing.

The Stephen Wiltshire video, by the way, is absolutely awesome.

Heidi posted on October 13, 2011 at 7:39 am

My thoughts tend to fall within the general consensus on this seminar. I just didn’t get as much out of it. I understand what media critics do but I feel like their jobs do not hold much water in the grand scheme of things. They referenced quite a few prominent Boston journalists; do any of those people really care what these guys have to say? Again we come back to the same question; they have never done the job so who are they to critique it?

Also, I think journalists do an ok job at policing themselves. For instance, Professor Shorr sent us an email about an incident between Heidi Watney and Mike Felger yesterday on the radio. Heidi said Mike was wrong about some things he said in reference to the Globe article that came out about the Red Sox. Felger fired back on the air saying that if these details were incorrect then she should have reported the real story months ago, but no one said a word. That is also an example of reporters being too close to the athletes but it also applies here. Journalists are generally not afraid to fire back at their colleagues if they feel something is wrong. And also, in this day and age where everything is on the internet and open for commentary, readers themselves will let a writer know when something isn’t right.

I understand that is not all that media critics do. They evaluate who is doing their job better and can direct the public to the best journalists. Joe made an excellent point about journalists not necessarily having been an athlete but they still critique the athletes. I just don’t think the job is as relevant as it was when newspapers ruled the world.

Tyler, the tongue thing really bothered me too. And I very much enjoyed the Stephen Wiltshire video. That was unbelievable.

Mallory posted on October 13, 2011 at 10:05 am

Yep, same thing – not sure I got much out of it, but it was interesting hearing the critics defend how their profession is important. What really bothered me was how they said they monitored locker room relationships to make sure reporters weren’t writing what athletes and management wants us to hear. And then it was like they bashed locker room relationships with the whole Red Sox beer and clubhouse situation. But what they never did was offer a solution. I asked them at the end if they thought journalists could do their job without locker room relationships and they both said no, those relationships are instrumental. But they never defined what was an appropriate relationship or if journalists should report anything they see regardless of their relationships. They almost contradicted themselves and that’s because they’ve never done the job of a reporter.
In a way I can almost defend the purpose of having media critics and how what they do relates to the profession of journalism. It goes back to journalism basics and the idea of being a watchdog. They consider themselves watchdogs. But then again, they are so concerned about reporters upholding their duty of being fair and accurate journalists when they themselves aren’t even qualified to be journalists. I also agree with Heidi, about journalists doing an okay job of policing themselves. If it’s not them monitoring themselves, then it’s the editors watching over them.
Finally, I don’t understand the work flow of these guys. They write an article once a week. So, then what do they do the other four days of the week? Read up on what other reporters are writing and pick that apart? Reporters do that to themselves already, read up on the competition, and go out to actually report the story. I guess I don’t give as much merit to their line of work as the other industry experts we’ve heard from in earlier seminars, but in a way I’m open to them proving me wrong. I just hope next time they come prepared with a better argument.
And P.S. the Stephen Wiltshire video was incredible. I can only hope my undiscovered talent is as impressive as his.

David Lombardi posted on October 13, 2011 at 10:35 am

forgot a word: ** I don’t BELIEVE being so disconnected flies.

3rd paragraph, first line

Patrick Hazel posted on October 13, 2011 at 11:07 am

A very good point: “why, as sports fans, do we need to listen to, or read, what someone has to say about what we just saw?”

I lean towards how Heidi feels about this matter of media critics. I understand what they do and why their job is important, but are they completely necessary? To be honest, in my opinion, they are unnecessary. But, they do fill a void that is sometimes needed.

Now, my biggest contest to media critics is that the majority (or a significant amount) of them have NEVER played the game. Some have played the game, but none have ever come close to a division 1 college or professional level (NBA NFL MLB). So how can a guy like Skip Bayless truly tell us that Lebron James is wrong when he does this, or soft when he does that? It is extremely upsetting to me when I see these media people come after athletes when they couldn’t even dream of stepping into the shoes of a guy like Lebron James.

I also agree with David, as it is hard to really respect someone who’s job it is to criticize an athlete, or anyone for that matter. But despite how my emotions make me feel about a media critic, they do a great job at what they do. The critics do a lot of homework to get their jobs done, and it takes a lot of dedication and time to carefully critique someone or something. Whether it is a game, an individual athlete, or an issue in a teams locker room, the people who criticize sports are educated individuals (not all of them) who take a lot of their time researching topics and teams in order to give quality stories.

I also like the sports radio broadcasters who host shows that allow the fans to call in and have discussions about certain topics. Even though a fans opinion is as meaningless as anything else, it does allow fans to give their own input on criticizing the sports they love.

Caroline posted on October 13, 2011 at 11:44 am

I really enjoyed reading Lee and Tyler’s blog response and agree with both of them. When professor Shorr asked “why do we need someone to tell us what is good or bad?” and Ryan’s response was after a pause “that’s for the viewer to determine,” to me that was such weak and vague answer considering someone just asked him why his job was important.
I understand the need for media critics but I just don’t think our guests did a good job perceiving what a good media critic is.
They said if you want to be taken seriously as a writer you need to show both sides, and they don’t do that, so I would not consider them journalist or at least serious journalist.
When talking about the problems in the Red Sox locker room the critics just could not understand why a reporter wouldn’t just break the stories that they saw day in and day out saying that, “in two weeks, no one is going to care.” Yet, they have never been in the locker room themselves. They have never been put in a reporter’s position; they have never had to do it.
Just as they said in the seminar they need to bring home a pay check, well, so don’t the reporters, writers are not willing to break a relationship with a player to break a story especially when their job is on the line. Critics need to realize that there is a line of decency that reporters follow, that for the most part is not crossed until need be or until they feel they have the green light to write. And it is kind of funny because the reporters are the certified professionals, can all media critics be called “professionals”? Maybe, but I don’t think I met them in the seminar. The critics even said that there is a line you don’t cross well it’s the same way with reporters.
I agree with Lee when he says that, “The two who spoke to us really gave the impression that they are just flipping on the tv or radio, seeing and hearing something that bothers them, and blogging about it. A real media critic will make the phone calls to both sides of a story, seek comment from those he calls out, and also seek comment from the folks who employ the people he calls out.”
It was very hard for me to enjoy this seminar I guess because I just don’t understand and they were not very clear in explaining their profession to me. I find it hard to believe that they consider this a real job, and hey, good for them that they are getting paid to do it but to me it just sounds like a hobby.

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