The 1968 slogan for a popular cigarette might very well be relevant now but if you were lucky enough to be on hand for our Women in Sports seminar at Boston University you might just wonder…Digit Murphy, the long time head women’s ice hockey coach at Brown University was quick to point out that despite celebrating the forty year anniversary of Title IX, things are not necessarily better, if only in numbers…”There are fewer women coaches now than there were ten years ago, Murphy stated, and that’s a problem” …In fact , according to a New York Times article, the numbers are staggering…Title IX has brought about sweeping changes for women in sports…One need look no further than right here on the Boston University campus to see its effect…After ninety one years, Terrier football was dropped in 1997, many of the funds diverted to pay for women’s sports on campus…Many of those funds went for women’s scholarships and the women’s athletic program on this end of Commonwealth Avenue is thriving…
Alice Cook was a pioneer in Boston sports television , joining WBZ-TV in 1984, as first a producer and then a reporter…While she loved the stories and wouldn’t have traded it for anything, acceptance was an issue…”I had athletes question everything about me, why i was there.I felt like I had to work harder than everyone else and couldn’t make a mistake”….Well, she outlived all of the detractors and went on to mentor many upcoming women sports journalists…Yet interestingly, like the female hockey coaches, the numbers of women on air at the networks affiliates here in Boston has evaporated…So where’s the progress?
Amanda Braun has been in the position of hiring women coaches and administrators at three major universities including her current post at Northeastern…She remembers being asked to join a conversation when the Huskies needed a new coach for their men’s team…”Dawn Staley’s name was brought into the conversation and i was surprised. Iwondered how that would be received”…The Huskies went on to hire Bill Coen and there has yet to be a woman coaching Division one men, although there are a couple of assistants sprinkled in…
Progress, sure…Are we there yet?, no way….Murphy gave perhaps the best piece of advice for men working alongside women in the sports world, journalism, athletics or anywhere, for that matter…”Treat them as your peers. Treat them with respect”…
Good avice for future journalists, men and women…After all, some day you might just wind up the General Manager and Coach of a professional women’s hocky team , the President and Founder of your own website or the Executive Senior Associate Athletic Director of a major university…You Have come a long way…..

26 Comments
Ashley Driscoll posted on September 30, 2012 at 1:21 pm
I thoroughly enjoyed this week’s seminar. I felt I could relate more to our guests this week than with others thus far, for two reasons. First, I can relate to these women because I am a woman. Second, Digit Murphy and Amanda Braun work in a university setting, and I am interested in working in collegiate athletics, either as a coach or as a member of athletic administration.
It appears that women have made the best strides in sports as athletes. Take the London 2012 Olympic Games as an example. It’s the first Olympics where every country had at least one woman as a part of their team…
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57490495/london-olympics-2012-filled-with-firsts-for-women/
The article makes note that in Saudi Arabia, girls aren’t even allowed to take part in school sports. Thankfully, we have more equal opportunity for participation in sports here in the US, but it shows us where we’ve come from and how far the world as a whole has to come in terms of including women in all aspects of sports.
Far less progressive is women’s presence in collegiate athletic administration. As Braun mentioned, in 2011 women held just 4% of Division 1 Athletic Director jobs…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/09/women-hold-4-of-division-_n_833522.html
My alma mater, Boston College, has an AD position available, recently vacated by a man. I wonder how many women will even bother applying? That’s one of the issues brought up in discussion on Thursday. There are not many women in these positions, but the problem begins much deeper… they don’t even feel that they are worthy of applying, and so it becomes a self-selecting process.
Women are absent not only in coaching positions, but also in sports media. Alice Cook noted that if women are present at all, it’s on national TV. Kat Cornetta’s article “Media Roundup: Women Still Trying To Find A Space In Boston Sports Media” states that, “For a city with a more than average amount of female sports fans, Boston is
still lacking in representation of women in sports
media.” Add to that our guest speakers’ comments that when positions are vacated, even those previously held by women, they are filled by a man. Murphy added that women are not smart enough or good enough to be in these positions.
Professor Shorr noted that just by having a seminar about women in sports, he’s drawing attention to the fact that women are different. This is true, and by drawing attention to the lack of women in sports, we can begin a conversation about why this occurs, and hopefully bridge the gender divide that is currently present.
Taylor Williams posted on September 30, 2012 at 4:33 pm
The consensus that seems to have emerged from our seminar’s latest guests and instructor is that women’s progress in sports has a bittersweet flavor. I’d have to agree. Female sports journalists, coaches, and administrators who acknowledge overtones of social progress in their work are, regardless of their individual successes, tethered to the larger limitations leveed on their gender for entering a business traditionally dominated by men.
I thought our guests exemplified some of those limitations to a T, whether it was Alice’s issues with locker room credibility or Digit’s struggle securing the Brown men’s hockey job. Simply put, these hindrances were tied to their sex. And they were driven by an American society that has shown its reluctance to fully embrace and empower women the way Title IX proponents imagined. Not to detract from the many strides that have been made, but it’s only been four years since society consented to nominating a female vice presidential candidate.
In my opinion, outdated, unfavorable social customs and perceptions are the obstacles keeping women from attaining equal standing in sports journalism. Their diminished role has nothing to do with being dilettantes of the sport or lacking the poise and grit to deal with the giant egos of professional athletes. Rather, it stems from the fact that time-honored traditions are often respected and obeyed without question in American sports and business.
I’d cite ESPN.com columnist Jemele Hill as a woman who consistently brings in-depth knowledge of the sport, a larger understanding of what’s driving the story, and exceptional command of the language to her writing. When sports journalism is your job and you possess those tools, can anyone really make the argument that gender matters?
Digit espoused that women have had a hand in their own social marginalization, and Alice acknowledged that many female sports reporters “care about the story, not the stats.” These statements aren’t explanations or excuses for the problem, but acknowledgement that these trends simply are what they are. And they don’t preclude a successful career in sports. These ladies made solid guests because, combined with Amanda, they represented a variety of viable options for women seeking careers in sports.
In doing some research on the subject, I came across a good article touching on another important facet: the relative absence of leadership and management positions held by female sports journalists. While the number of female collegiate coaches is shrinking, as Digit noted, journalism remains the primary arena of working in sports where women are being denied leadership opportunities. To my mind, this story hit on some of the issue’s key points.
http://sportsjournalism.org/sports-media-news/panel-sports-coverage-hurting-from-lack-of-diversity-in-newsrooms/
Amy Barry posted on September 30, 2012 at 5:45 pm
“Just the tip of the ice berg,” said Digit Murphy. She along with fellow women are a part of an iceberg that started from the ground up.
Murphy began coaching the Brown women’s hockey team in 1988. At the time, there were only two female coaches in all of Division I women’s hockey. One was herself. The program started off as “raffle tickets and candle bars.” Twenty-four years down the road, Murphy is the winningest coach in Division I women’s hockey history.
Alice Cook sprung on the scene and was not portrayed well by athletes or fellow journalists. “They assumed I was there to pick up a date instead of a story,” she said. Because there was “no room for error” Cook worked hard, reading everything and anything about sports to move from producer to on air journalist at WBZ-TV.
Amanda Braun, burst out in the women in sports scene early, and in the most populated scene, as an athlete. She
attended Siena on a basketball scholarship in 1995.
Today each of them moved up.
Murphy is back to the “raffle tickets and candle bars” stage with the Boston Blades, a professional women’s hockey team in the Canadian Women’s Hockey League.
Cook is an executive on a new sports website, She’s Game Sports. A site made by women for women. Cook said, “Women see sports in a different light. They see the stories, not all the stats.”
Braun is the executive senior associate athletic director at Northeastern making up the small percentage of athletic administration at the Division I level.
Each of these three women, worked their way up, but has the number of women in the industry increased?
Not in Boston.
Kat Hasenauer Cornetta wrote on SB Nation on July 29, 2011 in Media Roundup: Women Still Trying To Find A Space in Boston Sports Media:
Do women in Boston want to be in sports media? Yes, more so than in other cities. Given the high population of female sports fans in the area, there should be more women shaping sports reporting.
Cornetta made a great point, yet, none of the local networks have women as broadcasters. The local papers have female sports writers though; Amalie Benjamin, Shira Springer on the Globe’s sports feature staff and Shalise Manza Young holds down the Patriots beat.
No matter what the biggest issues are in women in the sports industry; coaching role, too provocative, or willing enough to have the conversations the problems are shrinking.
It only took a tip of an iceberg to sink the Titanic, which was supposed to be the first unsinkable ship. If Murphy, Cook and Braun make up, “just the tip of the iceberg” for women in the sports industry, as an up-in-coming female sports journalist and a former collegiate basketball player, I cannot wait to see, what the entire iceberg has in store and be a part of it.
Paul Ryan posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:54 am
As Digit Murphy responded to a question she was asked during the seminar, she said something along the lines of “women have not come nearly as far as they should have over the past 10 years.” Again, I’m just paraphrasing, but I have to completely agree with Murphy’s sentiment.
Back just 12 years ago, we thought the rise of women in sports would come with the 1999 World Cup and the amazing run of team USA. There are defining moments of women in sports, but people look at it just as that: women in sports. That’s part of the problem. It’s not really a sexist view on things as much as it is a human view. Since we’ve been younger we’ve basically been taught that men play against men and women play against women.
When it comes to women in sports journalism, I completely agree with Alice in that women have almost no room for error. If you hear a man screw up when asking a question in the locker room, he gets shrugged off or people just think he didn’t study enough on the subject. If a woman screws up when asking a question in the locker room, some will say she screwed up because she’s a woman.
Now this idea of women knowing sports has changed in the past several decades, but even to this day, some viewers and/or readers take women in sports less seriously. Women in sports have to work that much harder because of the social stigma attached to them.
In one of the readings titled, “Breaking News, Breaking Boundaries,” Susan Reed says, “examine women’s beat writers in basketball, football, any sport — they’re just as good.” This statement is completely true. The issue lies within the reader and whether or not they judge that the writer is female. It would be interesting to see people read articles without a byline and see how they judge a writer. Or for someone like Doris Burke to have a male voice, then would she be criticized for doing play-by-play?
It’s not easy to be a woman in sports. As Amy pointed out, Digit thinks that women in sports have just hit the tip of the iceberg. When people start to look at skill instead of gender, then women can finally overcome that barrier that some have created for them. It is still likely a long ways away, but with people like Digit, Alice and Amanda blazing the trail, hopefully it will become easier for those to follow in their shoes and take women in sports to another level.
Kendall Salter posted on October 1, 2012 at 10:02 am
At one point, Professor Shorr recognized that having a women in sports seminar was, in fact, perpetuating the idea that women working in sports are something to raise eyebrows at. I have two thoughts about this.
First, it is important to recognize that while significant progress has been made for female participation in sports media, there is still a lot of work to be done. In that sense, viewing women in sports as a special category for further study is understandable.
On the other hand, the seminar showed that despite setbacks, women have and will continue to have a strong presence in sports media, and at some point such seminars will be unnecessary. I don’t think this class would have hosted a discussion titled “Men in Sports.” I hope that will be the case for women soon enough, because that means that the female presence in sports media will be normalized.
There are so many great female journalists and coaches. I enjoyed hearing what Digit Murphy had to say about the problems faced by female coaches, because it actually contrasted my impressions. I thought that female coaching was on the rise, and it clearly isn’t. This is unacceptable. I always wondered why men coach so many women’s teams, and although Murphy explained that some female players are more comfortable with male coaches, I think that this situation needs to be rectified.
There is no great shortage of qualified female coaches. During my time at UCLA, I had the chance to cover our women’s basketball team and head coach Nikki Caldwell. Digit Murphy reminded me a lot of Caldwell — a former assistant to Pat Summit. I saw firsthand that coaching excellence knows no gender boundaries, and I think that Coach Caldwell was able to relate to her players more effectively than a male coach could. I think more universities should give that a chance. I also think that maybe it is time for a women to coach a men’s team. Why couldn’t they? Amanda Braun’s story about almost hiring Dawn Staley was fantastic, because it means that some administrators are thinking out of the box. It’s about time.
Braun’s discussion shed light on the challenges of athletic administration. Working in an athletic department requires so many different skills and so much time, but it was good to hear that Braun still devotes a portion of her schedule to having face-time with Northeastern’s student-athletes.
As for Alice Cook, she is doing what I think several of us would like to do: start our own journalism venture, completely in our control and self-created. She put in her time, to be sure, and it is encouraging to see that she has had some success launching her new online project. To get a perspective on a modern journalism start-up from a former athlete and accomplished writer was a valuable experience, and it shows that women are making great strides — and rightfully so — in sports media.
Jashvina Shah posted on October 1, 2012 at 1:55 pm
At one point the panel spoke of women broadcasting sports, how women aren’t broadcasting sports and how it all depends on the voice. This shows exactly what the seminar illustrated: That women in sports haven’t come as far as they should have, and I agree completely.
I do believe women in sports have made considerable advances but, as many have already stated, there’s still a long way to go. Women still aren’t on the same level as men in sports because certain women in sports are blocking progress based on their actions and there are new challenges that women in sports face.
If no progress had been made, Digit Murphy, Amanda Braun and Alice Cook wouldn’t be in the positions they are now. Incidents depicted in Sherry Ricchiardi’s article for the American Journalism Review such as the taunts Lisa Olsen received by the Patriots in 1990 don’t happen as often as they used to, if at all.
Boston University, with softball and lacrosse, has more major women’s athletics programs than men’s. The women’s teams have also outshone the men’s teams in recent years in terms of success.
I believe women in sports still face issues though, whether it be dealing with a family life and reporting, as Cook pointed out, or being unable to coach men’s teams, as Murphy pointed out. And women are still being treated differently.
At one of my internships I was in situations where the people I was working with would always say, “Take care of her” or call me “dear,” which isn’t acceptable. I also mentioned in class how I was sent angry comments about a women’s lacrosse broadcast I did a few years ago. Every comment said, “She said this” or “She did that,” even if I wasn’t the person who said those things. The way the comments were worded really made it seem as if I was being targeted because I’m a woman.
I’ve also been the only woman at two of my previous three internships (in the department as a whole, not just among interns). It seems strange because I expect there to be more women in sports journalism, like one expects there to be more women coaching women’s hockey as opposed to fewer women coaching.
It doesn’t help that some women in sports are detracting from the progress women like Murphy, Cook and Braun have made. For example, Lena Sutherland and Jules Mancuso founded a site called While the Men Watch (http://whilethemenwatch.com/about/), where they provide “commentary that women actually want to hear.” My issue with this site is the women act is if they’re speaking for the entire female population, which gives other women a negative image in terms of their sports knowledge.
Kerry White also brought up in her article, Breaking News, Breaking Boundaries, that when women are hired for their looks over experience, it hurts the reputation of women in sports media as a whole. Then there are instances where women in sports journalism dress inappropriately, such as Ines Sainz.
As a woman with an aspiring career in sports media, it’s encouraging so see the positions Murphy, Braun and Cook have.
Phillip Kisubika posted on October 1, 2012 at 4:59 pm
This semester was really interesting to me because we got the opportunity to examine the topic of women in sports from a few different perspectives: athletes/coaches, media and collegiate administration. Like Professor Shorr said, the fact that we had a “Women In Sports” seminar is almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy in terms of whether this was still an issue. We can see the strides made toward athletic equality, but as Digit Murphy said, “We’re not there yet.” Murphy was speaking about women’s professional sports, and that’s where the biggest gap seems to exist between men and women in athletics.
Over the summer, I interned at WBUR’s Only A Game, a weekly sports radio magazine. One week, we put together a show devoted to the 40th anniversary of Title IX, and one of the stories featured Murphy (http://onlyagame.wbur.org/2012/06/23/title-ix-brown). It was about a string of lawsuits brought against Brown University in the early 90s for Title IX non-compliance.
Twenty years later, women are still fighting to get the same level of respect that men get on the field of play. As much as we enjoy watching the U.S. women’s national soccer team, two women’s professional leagues have folded here in the past decade. Women’s basketball players wouldn’t play overseas after the WNBA season if they made enough money in this country.
I really enjoyed hearing Amanda Braun’s point of view when she said it doesn’t bother her that some girls of today don’t know about Title IX. As much of a turning point as it was, getting to a point where we don’t have to mention Title IX every time we talk about women in sports may be more important.
Patrick Thomas posted on October 1, 2012 at 6:25 pm
The theme of the women in sports discussion was quite resounding. Amanda Braun’s point on how the thinking of women is socialized resonated with me.
The book Sports Illusion, Sports Reality by Leonard Koppett makes a specific point regarding which specific activities fathers and mothers want their children to pursue. One line specifically addresses the issue: “if you had asked all American women in 1970, ‘Would you like yourself, or your daughter, to be a star athlete?’ the proportion of yes answers would be staggeringly smaller than among men”.
Although this book was written over 30 years ago, how much of that has changed? Do women who become mothers truly envision their daughters to be star athletes, reporters or work in athletic departments? It is a perplexing yet serious topic to tackle.
Overcoming societal norms correlates strongly with journalism.
Alice made a great point in terms of how women see journalism and or sports. “I was interested in telling the story, not just the facts”. Whether it is administration, coaching or reporting women capture attention; it is just in a different way.
Boom. Alice’s point was a key moment for me. The role of women in sports should not be a discussion of whether they diminish the masculinity of the sports arena.
How well a journalist, coach, or administrator, not the gender, positively effects the sports world should be the determining factor. Great journalistic work has a spoken or written voice but it should not necessarily belong to a man.
I respect Alice’s persistence even when professional athletes questioned her as to what she knows about sports. That takes guts. She is a great example. I would hope it motivated young women
The city of Boston faces a dilemma when it comes to representing women in the media. There are many print positions in Boston that are filled by women.
The same can not be said for on-air TV and radio talent. The 2011 article titled “Women Still Trying to Find a Place in Boston Sports Media” discusses that issue directly.
Is it due to women self-selecting themselves out of these positions or news networks not caring to fill the void?
Producers want great ratings and may not think a woman can do that. Athletic directors hire men to fill positions because social perception influences them to do so. Shame on them.
Women are capable at coaching males or in the booth doing play-by-play. The best sports moments should not solely praise “exceptionally gifted male athletes” or male journalists as Koppett said in his book. Look at Digit. Her work is exemplary for all sports enthusiasts. I would let her coach my son.
Women fight at an uphill battle. Hopefully young mothers can have the confidence to tell their daughters to become like Digit Murphy, Amanda Braun and Alice Cook. I hope my generation can be the one who sparks that change.
Mary Gagliardi posted on October 1, 2012 at 7:16 pm
I just googled women sports reporters to come up with an original quote or statistic for this post and the first page of results was littered with “hottest female sports reporters” etc. I’m not saying this to go on a feminist rant or anything of those sorts, but it does show what typically women sports reporters are known for… their looks.
Alice Cook, Digit Murphy, and Amanda Braun, our very entertaining and spunky guests mentioned that male sports reporters did not seem to have the pressure to look so flawless and perfect as their female counterparts. Many of them are frankly: overweight, unattractive, and simply on TV because for their knowledge of sports. Women are almost always told what to change about their appearance and what they need to improve.
Women have to be double threats in the sports broadcast world. Not only do they have to spew out facts, info about all that is new in the sports world, but they also have to look like “tens” and keep the attention of, typically, male viewers. It is difficult to find a list of hot male sports reporters, but there are pages and pages of such lists on hot female sports sideline reporters and anchors.
Obviously this is not fair, because women are rarely recognized for their sports expertise, as their popularity amongst mostly male viewers is seemingly mostly dependent on looks or “hotness”. This contradicts statement made by guest speaker Alice Cook about women reporters and how their male counterparts should treat them in the workplace. Cook stated: ”treat them as your peers. Treat them with respect.”
As wonderful as that would be for females, and anyone to unconditionally receive such treatment in the workplace, it was agreed by the general consensus in the seminar that we are not quite there yet in the sports world. From personal experience I would just like to be taken more seriously and maybe given the chance to prove myself to my male counterparts when it comes to sports. I played three sports in high school, grew up going to Chargers and Padres games, and have had sports fanatics in my family for generations. Many people would not know that, as I am often silenced or ignored in sports productions meetings etc. As Murphy said, guys can be harsh with us ladies, we’re not going to run off and cry (most of the times) but engaging in a heated debate about ideas and opinions of sports can and should happen between a knowledgeable man and a woman. She just needs to be given the chance.
Kaleigh Fratkin posted on October 1, 2012 at 8:42 pm
From the issue of Title IX, to the presence of “trail blazers” in men’s professional sports, women have come a long way. Alice Cook, Amanda Braun and Digit Murphy are living proof that women have broken barriers in a male dominated field. Although they have journeyed far from when they started their careers, they admitted that there is still progress to be made.
I agree with Professor Shorr, and thus I think Digit provided the best piece of advice for men working alongside women. She said “Treat them as your peers. Treat them with respect.” I believe that the biggest reason why women aren’t respected in the sports world is that men don’t find them credible. People’s responses are usually “she’s never played the game at that level, so she doesn’t know anything.” Although that may be true, it doesn’t mean it’s right. The truth is, there are a lot of males and females who have never played a game at the professional level or any level for that matter, but they still are very knowledgeable sportspersons.
Yes, there is still progress to be made, but it is happening. Below are two articles I have found where females become general managers and vice presidents of professional minor hockey and Major League Baseball teams.
Nicole Kupaks was named the first and only female president and general manager in professional hockey for the CHL St. Charles Chill. And although “the Chill” is a minor team, Ms. Kupaks is paving the way and breaking down barriers for females in the male dominated sport of hockey.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=641971
Kim Ng, female senior vice president of baseball operations for the Los Angeles Dodgers has broken down what have been termed insurmountable barriers for females in Major League Baseball. She is determined to become the first female general manager in the Major League.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/kim-ng-general-manager-aspirations-vp-baseball-operations-051012
I think the Kim Ng article, in particular Bob Daly’s part, best sums up the importance of this week’s seminar and the point our guests were trying to make.
“It’s going to take somebody — excuse my French, but somebody with a set of balls — to do it,” Bob Daly, the former CEO and managing partner of the Dodgers, told FOXSports.com. “Somebody who interviews her, checks her out, and does not get afraid.”
“When I think back to one of the biggest mistakes I made from personnel standpoint, it was not making Kim general manager before I left,” Daly said. “She can negotiate as good as anyone I know, and she does it without offending people. She deserved the job. And for whatever reason, it is a man’s world out there in baseball. But she is very, very qualified to be a GM. It’s a shame she hasn’t gotten the opportunity. I kick myself for not doing that.”
I think it’s terrific that Bob Daly admitted he made a big mistake by not making Ng a GM. It shows the struggle that I think a lot of managers face with a woman wanting to take a managing position. It’s not that they aren’t qualified, like Daly said, it’s about breaking the precedent and the “culture” that women aren’t supposed to run male professional teams.
Donna Lopiano, in the Ng article in reference to Alice, Amanda and Digit’s accomplishments, sums it up succinctly “they’re doing what they do, whether it’s trying out for a wrestling team or Kim with her aspirations in Major League Baseball, and they don’t see themselves in that context at all. They do what they do because they’re passionate about it.”
Greg Picker posted on October 1, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Digit Murphy may believe that Title IX may not necessarily have improved women’s position in NCAA sports, but as an outsider I believe it completely has. Her justification that there are less women coaching I think partially proves that women’s NCAA sports are in a much better position than they were prior to Title IX. Clearly women’s sports are no longer just thought of as an afterthought. Being the head coach of a women’s NCAA sports team is now a very sought after position that both men and women are interested in.
The blog mentions that BU dropped football partially because of Title IX. 15 years later I think we can see that the goal of dropping football has been accomplished as it relates to women’s sports at BU. With the money saved from football, the women’s ice hockey was formed. Now the team has become a national title contender just a few years into the forming of the program. In addition, millions of dollars are being spent to help the field hockey team by building a new field on-campus. Next year BU will be adding another women’s team in the form of lightweight rowing. Clearly, these teams are not just afterthoughts.
The head coaching jobs for women may not correlate to the money being spent on women’s NCAA sports, however Title IX has been extremely beneficial. According to AAUW.org, there has been a 456% increase in female NCAA Varsity Athletes from 29,972 in 1972 to 166,728 in 2005. Males have increased at just 31% during the same span. The increases have been even greater at the high school level. As of 2008, there were over 3 million female high school athletes, while in 1972 there were less than 300,000.
However, I agree with the panel that once a woman is in charge of an NCAA men’s team, and it is not a one-time gimmick, then can we begin to consider women on a completely level footing with men behind the scenes. That’s only on a coaching level. On a student-athlete level, I think we are there in terms of men and women being on equal footing.
Jonathan Lemons posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:18 am
Professor Shorr opened Thursday’s discussion expressing a concern that hosting a class dedicated to women in sports effectively validates/perpetuates the notion that such a thing is noteworthy.
To that end, our panel of guests agreed that the true measure of progress would be the day when such a class felt unnecessary. Amanda Braun mentioned she found it heartening to hear some of Northeastern’s current female athletes aren’t fully aware of Title IX. To Braun, the fact that women’s athletics is something these girls take for granted is a testament to just how far we’ve come. It is an indication that the need for Thursday’s seminar may be fading.
What I found myself wondering throughout the discussion was how to reconcile two indisputable facts.
First, as evidenced by Digit’s failure to get the men’s head coaching job at Brown, women are often not getting a fair shot in the sports industry. (By ‘unfair’ shot, I simply mean that their gender is being factored into their evaluations.)
Second, compared to men, a far smaller percentage of women are interested in sports. For an industry in which every major sports league is played by men, and that caters to viewers/listeners/readers who are overwhelmingly male, it makes a great deal of sense that the majority of those coaching and covering the industry are also men. (Another note: I’m not suggesting this is a good or bad thing. Simply that it is not particularly surprising.)
In that context, the question I kept coming to was; what is “there”. Time and again I heard our guests and my classmates suggest that women are making progress but, as an industry, we’re not “there” yet. If we recognize that there are fewer women interested in sports, (something Alice acknowledged during our discussion) I wonder then, if we removed fact number one, what would the industry look like? That is, if women were treated completely equally and a true meritocracy existed, what would we expect? If every woman interested in working in sports were treated no differently than her male counterparts, what would the percentages look like?
And in what fields and at what levels would we see the biggest changes? I think that’s an important (and unfortunately, unanswerable) baseline to establish, when talking about “there”.
A final, and somewhat unrelated thought: Alice’s contention that most women don’t care about the stats but about the stories complicated the discussion for me. In her time as a sports reporter, Alice said she felt like athletes and other journalists didn’t take her seriously because she was a woman, and therefore, probably didn’t know as much about sports.
To then suggest that a sports website catering to women ought to shun statistical analysis and x’s-and-o’s-discussions in favor of stories that have more to do with, as Alice said “the player’s feelings” seemed dangerously close to reinforcing the very stereotypes Alice said she struggled to overcome.
Nick Hansen posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:20 am
Mary brings up a good point about the double standard for women within sports media. Women must not only be knowledgeable, but they must be “hot” as well. This is one of a myriad of issues facing women in the sports industry today.
While Erin Andrews is a very knowledgeable and professional reporter, you’d be kidding yourself if you thought her looks didn’t play a part in her popularity.
The internet doesn’t make this any easier. There is an extremely popular blog, Kissing Suzy Kolber, named after one of the more visible incidents of sexual harassment in the sports industry. (Google it.)
And while I was working social media coverage for the ESPY’s, there was a lot of extremely disgusting comments regarding Baylor Basketball star Brittany Griner and her gender. Griner is one of the most dominant female basketball players of all time, and most people were making jokes that she might actually be a man.
So, it’s tough, but I think things are getting better, incrementally. Jay Caspian Kang wrote a fantastic piece for Grantland called “The Death of the Ann Kornikova Era” in women’s sports.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8372737/from-serena-williams-missy-franklin-gabby-douglas-summer-2012-defined-female-athletes
Women are still being sexualized, but I think society as a whole is starting to respect women athletes more for their accomplishments. (Women’s soccer team, Gabby Douglas, etc.)
The blog I write for has some great hockey coverage and it’s mostly all done by a female. She’s way more knowledgeable than me on the subject and I don’t pretend otherwise.
Women have much different problems to face in the 21st century than they did in the 70’s. We’ve come a long way, but there are still new challenges to face.
Nate Weitzer posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:22 pm
What struck me most about this seminar was the wide range of opinions from our guests. It seemed like Alice Cook was on one end of the spectrum, completely opposite Digit Murphy, and Amanda Braun was perfectly neutral and frank about the issues at hand.
To elaborate on this point, Alice stated multiple times that the work should speak for itself when it comes to women as sports reporters. At one point she recognized that women are marginalized by their peers in the media because of certain prejudices, to which Digit interjected that (some) women marginalize themselves.
These disparaging opinions highlight the different approaches towards gaining equality for women in sports. Digit asserts that the problem is how women are presenting themselves, while Alice believes the problem is how society perceives these women.
Amanda touched on this issue many times when she talked about how the ‘socialization’ of women prevents them from assuming leadership roles in sports. She didn’t seem to lean to either side, she was just stating this as a fact.
Whatever we claim is the source of the problem, there have to be solutions to raise equality and awareness for women in professions related to sports. Both viewpoints maintain that it’s up to individual women to be ambitious, attentive, and excellent in their various fields. Every generation will look to the women who have succeeded in this regard, and perhaps this will positively affect the ‘socialization’ of young women and reinforce their own confidence in pursuing a career in sports.
Greg Huntoon posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:49 pm
The process of women getting to where they want to be in sports is exactly that: a process. While women may not be “there” yet in sports, they are on their way. Progress is being made, and before major changes can be made, the mind set as a whole has to be changed. While the numbers may not represent the progress that people want to see, those will come once the attitude towards women in sports is where it should be. Everyone keeps pointing to Digit’s thought of “treat them as your peers. Treat them with respect.” This mindset is starting to set in.
Look at sports media. Taylor mentioned Jamele Hill and how she is a great journalist. Never does the fact that she is a woman affect my views on her work. And when she sits across from Skip Bayless on First Take (this class’ favorite show), I don’t get excited because it’s a woman on the show, I get excited because she’s not afraid to go head to head with Bayless and call him out.
Beth Mowins is another person who falls into this category for me. She is a play by play announcer for ESPN, who covers many sports, including college football during the fall. Watching her, I never hear anything that would make we not want to continue watching the channel, and if you muted the TV and just read subtitles for what was being said, there is no way you would be able to tell it was a woman.
As far as coaching goes, the fact that the thought of women coaching men’s sports is out there is progress in itself. While the reasoning for Digit being turned down for the men’s job at Brown may not be great, the fact that she asked is important. Back in the 90’s the thought would have been considered ridiculous. But if women keep going for it, eventually one is going to get in. It’s not going to happen on the first try.
The growth will be coming down the road. I like the numbers Greg mentioned about the number of women participants in sports growing so much over the years. If we look at the Women’s World Cup from 1999, it may not have given the immediate impact that some may have wanted in women’s sports, but it was great for young girls who saw that and used it for motivation, and will be playing for the US national team in the coming years. Young women can see the Jamele Hills of the world and know that they can great sports journalists too. The true impact of the women pioneers in sports won’t be realized until the generation they inspired are in place.
All in all what I am saying is that progress is being made through the attitude towards women in sports. The process is not a quick one. We are changing the perception of women in sports, and when that is where it should be, then we can get to the “there” we are looking for.
Bobby LeBlanc posted on October 2, 2012 at 6:57 pm
What really struck me the most about this seminar is the drive and passion that Digit Murphy, Alice Cook, and Amanda Braun have for what they do. It’s not that I was surprised by it, but it’s more that I saw a drive that is really inspirational. This has already been discussed, but take Digit for example. I found myself rooting for her when she said she had interviewed for the men’s coaching job at Brown. I was disappointed to hear that she didn’t get it. Her efforts not just as a coach but also as a person became clear in the seminar that she is truly dedicated to what she is doing.
Furthermore, I really liked some of the advice that Amanda and Digit gave to the class that is great advice for men too. Amanda told us that making connections with people would get you a job regardless of your gender. I also thought Digit gave great advice that applies to both men and women. She said that, as a coach, it’s part of her job to convince her athletes that they have value as leaders.
Digit’s advice led me to a fact in an article entitled, “Women, leadership, and sports: Looking back on London 2012.”
http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2012/09/26/women-leadership-and-sports-looking-back-on-london-2012/
The article says, “82% of women business executives played organized sports after elementary school, 20% more than the general population.”
I think this fact is directly related to Digit’s comments about empowering women through her job as a head coach of a women’s hockey team. It shows that women playing organized sports can be directly related to helping them grow as leaders. I also think it’s the same thing that occurs in men’s sports. Men as well become stronger leaders by playing organized sports.
The article also brings up a point that Ashley has already made, and that is that women have made great strides as athletes, especially in the Olympics. From my own personal experience, I actually enjoy watching the women’s sports in the Olympics more so than watching the men compete. Sanyin Siang, the author of the article, points out that women brought home 67% of the medals for the United States. I agree with Siang when she says that the Olympics will encourage women’s participation in sports and help advance them beyond sports. I also think that the Olympics help engage more men in women’s athletics and will continue to do so.
Overall, I really enjoyed the week’s seminar and hope to see women advance further into sports. I’m rooting for women like Digit Murphy to break down barriers and look forward to seeing the continued progress that women are making in sports today.
Jason Lind posted on October 2, 2012 at 7:50 pm
One small point I found interesting from this week’s discussion was the theory of a woman’s voice keeping her off the air. Digit Murphy tossed out the idea that men might not enjoy hearing a higher-pitched voice in a live broadcast. Initially it seemed absurd, but I made a list in my head of well-reputed female sports broadcasters: Doris Burke, Suzy Kolber and Pam Ward all have a little baritone in their voices. Not all prominent women in broadcast sports journalism have deep voices (Erin Andrews, Holly Rowe and others have a more alto sound). But the ones who speak throughout the broadcast seem to have deeper voices.
Pam Ward and Doris Burke are two women who get into the booth for play-by-play and color commentary. Burke, a former Providence basketball star, does commentary because she has firsthand knowledge of the game at a high level. But Ward, a play-by-play announcer for Big Ten football on ESPN, is an anomaly. She was the first woman to call national college football games in 2000.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/2008-09-17-women-announcing_N.htm
Ward was pulled from college football this March, leaving Beth Mowins as the only female doing play-by-play for the sport.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/richard_deitsch/05/28/medialist.june/index.html
“…I do feel I am the only broadcaster who has to be perfect, and nobody’s perfect,” said Ward in an interview with SI.com. Alice Cook echoed the thought, saying she was more nervous in the locker room than she was skating at the Olympics. Women in sports journalism (particularly broadcast, where they are more visible) don’t receive the benefit of the doubt from their male audience. Buried by the false thought that they have minimal knowledge of the sport they cover, they have to climb out of the hole that prejudice digs.
“We are so used to being marginalized, especially around sport in terms of leadership and the role model piece [women] don’t see.” Amanda Braun was referring to women participating in athletics, but the thought holds merit for women in live broadcast. All the role models for women are on the sideline. At the pinnacle of broadcast, there are few same-sex role models for women.
Matt DeFonzo posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:16 am
Since virtually everyone made the point that women have made progress in the sports world but still have a large amount of progress to make, I think it might be time to start talking about how we can, and should, help women get “there”(and by “we helping” I mean both men and women).
First, I think that, as long as they are qualified, women should apply for the jobs they want in the sports world. Ashley speculated that women might not even bother applying for available positions because they believe they won’t be granted the job due to their gender. I happen to agree with Ashley, and I think that if women are going to make progress in entering the sports world more, that has to change. Whether it’s the position of athletic director at a prestigious university, or a job as a beat reporter for the local newspaper, if a woman has the desire and is qualified for a position, she should apply.
The practical reason for this is that we can’t possibly expect women to move into higher positions, or to occupy more positions, in the world of sports if they don’t try to get those jobs. Yes, there are certainly other efforts that will have to be made, but I think that a woman should always try to get a job she is qualified for. While it may happen that she doesn’t receive the position she applies for, it may turn out that she meets a boss who believes people should be hired based on merit and not on gender. While being turned down for a job would certainly be disappointing, it would be more disappointing not to try. In order for women to make further inroads into the world of sports, they have to at least take the chance and apply for the jobs they want.
Second, I think that people should not only stop viewing females as less qualified in the coaching and administrative and journalism departments, but should also refrain from looking at them as inferior on the playing fields and courts.
One thing no one mentioned in response to Professor Shorr’s blog post is that not only are women marginalized as people who work in sports, but they’re marginalized as people who play sports too. If we are going to make it “there,” then people have to recognize that female athletes are just as talented and skilled as men are. Getting “there” will take more than just giving women more sports jobs; it will also take a change in the belief system of the country that celebrates its male athletes, yet pushes its female athletes to the back of the newspaper. We’ll have to look at elite female athletes as the equals of elite males, not as inferior, and I think it’s just as important for people to start viewing male and females as equal on the playing field as it is for women to aspire to higher positions in the fields of athletic administration. Otherwise, we wouldn’t really be “there.” We’d still think men were better athletes than women, and that’s still one step short of where we’d need to be.
Finally, and perhaps most importantly, I think that not only does the attitude towards women in sports need to change, but the attitude towards women in general needs to change as well. I think that the United States, and probably the rest of the world, still has a prevailing attitude that men and women are supposed to fill certain roles in their lives. Men are supposed to work and provide for their families. Women are supposed to stay at home and take care of the children. These beliefs may not be articulated, but I think they still exist even in today’s society.
In the book Sports in Society: Issues and Controversies, Jay Coakley talks about a study conducted by Mike Messner that examined a youth soccer league where, “Over 80 percent of the head and assistant coaches were men, whereas 86 percent of the team managers, or ‘team moms,’ as most people referred to them, were women.” Coakley goes on to note that in Messner’s study, “Men volunteered because they believed it was appropriate for them to play such a role, whereas the women felt less so,–and the men didn’t think they would make good ‘team moms.’”
The social spheres of the league Messner describes seems to suggest that people do, indeed, even at the level of youth soccer, believe there are well-defined social boundaries into which men and women should be placed. In order to allow women to make progress in the world of sports, they also have to make progress in the world as a whole. The lines that strictly divide the roles of men and women in the world have to be erased, or at least re-drawn, before women can complete their progress to make it “there” in the world of sports.
Ashley Driscoll posted on October 3, 2012 at 7:27 am
I’d like to add one extra comment to the conversation. I’m sure many of you have seen this video that has gone viral on social media, and was discussed on the news this morning…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUOpqd0rQSo
While this news anchor is not reporting on sports, it brings up an issue which was discussed by our guests last week. A man would never have received such an email, but because she’s a woman, Jennifer Livingston was called out for her weight and told she should lose weight because she’s a local public personality. If women in broadcasting are being bullied in this way, women in sports are still way behind the curve. Again, our guests last week mentioned that women in broadcast sports fields are told they have to look a certain way, which is not something any man would have to endure.
Andrew posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:06 pm
I have a confession, when I noticed this seminar on the syllabus I wasn’t happy. I thought why is it fair to give women an hour to complain about the lack of opportunities in sports. That sounds chauvinistic and frankly it is, but I’m so glad to be proven wrong and the “women in sports” seminar was easily turned into my favorite seminar.
I really liked the fact that there was this umbrella topic, but there were truly three different voices. They were honest even engaged with audience at some points and at the end of the discussion I came to two conclusions: one, I have so much more respect for the successful women in sports and that Title IX may not have been the answer.
Yes Title IX has done a tremendous amount for young girls and has opened avenues for women that were previously unjustly closed. That cannot be debated, but Title IX seems like it is just throwing money at the issue. Digit Murphy mentioned that there are fewer women coaches and Amanda Braun mentioned few administrators. So if Title IX is just helping the athletes is it worth it…probably not.
Please don’t mistake my position, thousands of woman athletes have the ability to compete across the nation and that is wonderful. However, due to the fact that the only pro- woman’s league that has been sustained is the WNBA, athletes play in college and then go on to jobs outside of athletics and that’s it. Why don’t more girls stay and give back to their sports?
I briefly spoke with Digit Murphy after the formal seminar ended and I asked her with sports being run as businesses now a-days is she fearful that her new league may not get the chance to solidify itself. Her response was that she hates how sports have become business and no she is not afraid. I disagree with her, but that kind of attitude is the attitude her new league needs to succeed an attitude that hopefully will rub off on more women in sports.
Nate Boroyan posted on October 3, 2012 at 2:22 pm
I for one, was amazed when Digit Murphy suggested that Title IX has actually taken away a lot of possibilities for women in sports. While it is obvious that there has been an increase in participation and available athletic options for women, the decreasing number of “leadership” roles occupied suggested to me that his is still very much a debate between gender power.
The panel’s statements pointed to two distinct positions occupied in women’s sports. The teacher/leader/coach and the subject. The subject being female athletes. With salaries rising and men becoming more interested in getting involved on the coaching end of women’s sports, it appears that women’s sports have become a microcosm for society as a whole.
Men are the figure heads and the leaders while women are thrust into the background. I say “background” because, in men’s athletics, there is no struggle for power. Men are leading other men. Also, prominent male athletes, tend to remain within their athletic field following their playing days, either as a coach, general manager, owner or even analyst.
Judging by the panel’s comments, the majority of female athletes do not see their lives revolving around sports after their playing days, which for many, even the elites, end following college. Should the trend continue, it appears as if the power in women’s sports is very much controlled by their male coaches and athletic directors.
This seems to work the same way in sports media.
I look at examples such as ESPN’s College Gamday. The panel consisting of four men, most notably Kirk Herbstreit and Lee Corso, are cemented as the faces of the college football world come Saturday. Yet, up until leaving ESPN, Erin Andrews was arguably far and away the most popular draw for college football fans.
While this may stem from her attractiveness and her popularity amongst the college football fan demographic, she was almost the only member of the college football media that anyone bothered to talk about. Still, she was hardly the leader of the broadcast.
Erin Andrew’s attractiveness also brings into question how fans view women athletes. Why is it that athletes such as Lolo Jones for the USA track and field team are followed so closely. In terms of performance, she was one of the least productive athletes during the games. Still, she was frequently featured on ESPN and NBC.
Not only do women have to compete exceedingly well to receive attention, they face an issue that men do not have to worry about, that being their appearance, as the panel hinted at.
While women have certainly come a long way in terms of promoting their sports and increasing their participation, it still appears that they are viewed as an “other.”
It is similar to the debate as to why there remains an African American literature section in bookstores. Why are these books not included within a general literary cannon? Why must a female athlete be noticed or identified as a woman in sports rather than just an analyst or a player?
Caitlin Donohue posted on October 3, 2012 at 3:02 pm
What I liked most about our three guest speakers was their honesty. Although Alice, Digit, and Amanda were each optimistic about the future of women in sports, they were also realistic when they admitted that we have a long way to go.
This timeline from the NY Times shows the vast growth that women in sports have experienced following the debut of Title IX.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/06/17/opinion/sunday/sundayreview-titleix-timeline.html#/%23time12_271
Isn’t it interesting, though, that each story depicted talks about participation in the game as a player and not as a coach or a manager? Braun, Cook, and Murphy all agreed that Title IX did amazing things for female athletes, but it negatively affected participation on the administrative side. Male administrators need to acknowledge the incredibly low percentage of their female counterparts so that it can be changed. According to the article below, “men have been hired for 68.5% of the college women’s team coaching openings filled since 2000.” Why are equally qualified women not occupying more of these positions? And why is the idea of a woman coaching for a men’s team even up for debate?
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/09/female_coaches_why_aren_t_there_more_women_in_charge_of_men_s_teams_.html
As an aspiring female sports broadcaster, I am also concerned with the issue of equality in the sports news industry. As Mary said, when you Google “Women Sports Broadcasters,” the first several results are variations of “50 Hottest Female Sports Reporters,” which is disheartening. Yes, many women occupy admirable positions in the sports broadcasting field, but they are still not always taken seriously by their primarily male audience. Alice mentioned that she was more scared to interview male players in a locker room than she was to cover the Olympics! Hopefully, as time goes on, women will be judged by their intelligence and qualifications before they are ruled out because of their gender or appearance. Either that, or men should be held to the same standard of “hot-ness” when acquiring a job!
Despite these challenges, Braun stated that your gender ultimately doesn’t matter in the networking process; you must make “genuine connections with those who share your values.” It may not be easy for a woman to succeed in the sports industry, but each of our guests proved that through hard work and networking, it is not impossible.
Tim Larew posted on October 3, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I always find the topic of “women in sports” to be an interesting one. There are a number of parallels between sexism and racism, and one of the major ones is that often times, the people who call themselves victims are actually perpetuating the issue. In the case of last week’s seminar, however, I think the panelists did a nice job of addressing the issues at hand without taking too much of a biased stance.
One moment during the discussion that really stood out to me was when Digit Murphy was answering questions about the presence (or lack-thereof) of female head coaches in Division 1 athletics – particularly on the men’s side of things. She brought up Pat Summitt and talked about how her name is really the only one tossed around when casual sports fans discuss whether or not a woman could hypothetically coach a men’s D1 basketball team well. It was funny to think about because like many, I’m guilty of the same thought process. For one reason or another, I just don’t feel like a woman is as capable as a man for that position… except for maybe Pat Summitt.
And that got me thinking – what is it about Pat Summitt that qualifies her more so than any other female (in my mind)? Is it simply the fact that she’s been so successful and in many ways is an icon – not just a coach? Does it have something to do with her slightly masculine edge, her deeper voice, etc? I’m not sure. I think it’s a combination of both.. and maybe more.
But that led me to this conclusion: the bottom line is, if a woman proves herself in her area of work within the sports world, she not only has my respect, but I trust her and support her as I would any male doing the job just as effectively.
I think Jackie MacMullan is another great example. One student brought her name up in the Q&A segment, and I immediately started nodding my head in agreement. Jackie is one of my favorite female sports personalities because she’s both entertaining and extraordinarily knowledgeable.
Professor Shorr, you brought up Doris Burke, but I simply cannot stand her as a commentator. Is it because she’s a woman? No, but I will admit that I, like many, many other men, are more critical of females in roles that males typically hold than I would be of fellow males. I think it’s because her – and other females – voice stands out. Growing up, we were used to hearing nothing but male voices through our TVs. If one slipped up on a stat here and there, or simply wasn’t a great commentator, he still wouldn’t stand out as noticeably bad because his voice would essentially blend in – his shortcomings would fade into the background. Put a woman in his shoes, though, and her shortcomings are amplified by the fact that she stands out as it is.
No matter what, women in sports is a fascinating topic. I think if a woman like Alice Cook was in an Andrea Kramer’s shoes, people wouldn’t look down upon and make so many jokes about women in the sports world. Alice, Amanda and Digit were all well-spoken and engaging, and truly great examples of persistence leading to success.
The stat about the number of female coaches dwindling that Digit discussed may be disconcerting for some, but I don’t think it should necessarily be alarming. The wave isn’t going to come all at once. Women are certainly working their way up, and just because there’s been a slight drop-off of them in the highest positions of power doesn’t mean that there aren’t thousands more ready to make that step within the next ten years. We’re in a bit of a transition period, but women are undoubtedly starting to get the respect they deserve.
Davis VanOpdorp posted on October 3, 2012 at 4:43 pm
When I got to BU, I had my eyes opened with all the different girls sports there are here. Before college, I didn’t really have any interest of watching women’s sports at all. That all changed when I wanted to watch my fellow athletes, and my eyes were opened. Now there are several instances where I would rather watch the female sport than the male sport, in soccer more specifically.
The reason why I bring this up is because Digit and Amanda both brought up that interest in female sports has plateaued since the early 2000s. However, I still think that women’s sports have come a long way in that regard. For example, I know that BU attendance for men and women’s soccer games are very similar. Granted, they are both pretty low, around 200-300 fans a game, but I still think that the fact that they are even close to each other is remarkable.
I also wanted to touch on something that Alice said. My mom has gotten a lot more interested in sports, mainly because my family friends and I watch it nonstop and we have had Super Bowl parties during every Patriots Super Bowl appearance in the 2000s. I agree with Alice’s analysis on the spread of female interest, with 10% of women being interested in the number stuff, 35% being somewhat interested in the number stuff, and 55% being interested in just the stories and how hot the players look.
However, one point I wanted to see if Alice would make is how women IN JOURNALISM have created kind of a role for themselves. In my opinion, if there was a man as a sideline reporter at a football game, I feel like he would be more interested in the player’s performance and what numbers he put up. Conversely, as Alice eluded to, I think that women provide a much better dynamic on the sideline, providing more of a quality story and something that I think viewers might be interested in.
That role of being more of a quality reporter rather than a quantity reporter is something that is the next step for news directors to realize. I think that a female sports anchor would be able to do highlights like anyone can do, but also add more sidebar stories and general interest stories, which I think is a dynamic that is lost in the mostly-male profession. That I think can gain women sports reporters more credibility, and I think that they have a great opportunity to grow the female presence in the world of sports.
Sandeep Chandrasekhar posted on October 3, 2012 at 5:40 pm
While I did enjoy the thorough information and passion displayed by each of the three women speakers last Thursday, I still believe there is still quite a bit of discrimination that goes on in women’s sports and sports journalism. It’s a trend which I do not think will stop in the very near future.
I still have a hard time imagining someone like Digit Murphy ever coaching a Division I men’s hockey team or even a professional men’s hockey team at any level. Likewise, an AD like Amanda Beard would have to cross too many barriers to consider hiring a women’s coach in a top men’s collegiate program, even though she was extremely adamant in defending women’s power in sports.
In sports, women still do not have anywhere near the level of respect to garner a top job, whether it’s a coach or official. Some of this is justified and some is not. For coaching, there are too many hurdles for them to cross to become successful at leading a team. For instance, in sports like basketball and football, there are huge egos within every single locker room, and most women simply will not have the physical or mental power to channel everyone’s persona and stay together. Even a strong-willed woman will become intimidated by a large group of people with double the physical size and stature of a woman. When things go wrong, I do not personally believe they have the personality to control the situation because the players, whether it is fair or not, still think they are above all women.
In addition, the first woman to coach any major men’s team will face unprecedented media and public scrutiny. With the growth in social media, even more people would be able to lash out on a female coach, putting extraordinary pressure on the coach or team to succeed. As a result, the women are put in an extremely difficult position to succeed. Unless the team wins and wins consistently, the women coaches are easily going to become the scapegoats. People can unjustifiably criticize the women coach for not being good enough, so these female coaches will be put in an almost impossible situation, one that will ultimately wear on them whether it is fair or not.
Moreover, the discrimination continues onto the sports journalism side for women. Currently, more and more television networks are hiring women for on-camera personalities, such as the increase in women anchors in ESPN’s SportsCenter and the large number of sideline reporters in each of the four major sports. Because most of the sporting audience is male, attractive females, whether they are qualified or not for their job, appeal to the target audience, especially as on-camera personalities. For example, NESN continues to only hire women as sideline reporters, changing from Heidi Watney to Jenny Dell last year. Personally, I believe each women solely received their jobs from their looks over their qualifications.
However, despite a growth in on-camera personalities for women, the jobs are extremely limited in the industry. Very few women, such as Jackie MacMullan, are able to become analysts or experts on television segments because of a perceived lack of knowledge in the sport. In ESPN, almost every women who is an on-air talent is a host or sideline reporter, two very limited jobs who just feed questions to the experts or athletes. In positions like play-by-play commentary, the males overwhelmingly dominate the job market because they are perceived to have greater respect with their understanding of the game. In live broadcasts, I do not believe many women will be doing any on-air work outside of sideline reporting, since they are not considered “experts” in any men’s sport.
Ultimately, while women have progressed in the sports and media industry, I do not believe they have a very high ceiling in these professions. Some of these reasons outlined are justified and some are based on perceived notions, but overall women need to cross too many barriers to hold an “expert” or “skilled” position in the industry.
Stephanie Jarvis posted on October 3, 2012 at 9:31 pm
I’ve been pondering this in my head for a few days now, but I still haven’t come to a very clean conclusion. Sitting in Thursday’s seminar, I was so encouraged because at the front of the room were three extremely successful, knowledgable women who have really excelled in a career field that is predominately male. But then again, I really keep going back to the fact that the female presence in the local tv market for sports is non-existant at this point – and it’s not just Boston. The sports department I interned with during my undergradate
years in Ohio and the surrounding local stations were all entirely male. Since the time of my internship, two positions have opened up and both were filled with a man.
This leads me to the confusion I’ve been feeling since Thursday’s seminar. Are the doors really open for women in sports journalism? After listening to the three panelists speak, I’m uncertain as to how far we’ve really progressed as a society. I think the three women panelists have gained success by being persistent and by working twice as hard as their competition. But I think some changes to the social norm, such as a female coaching a men’s team, will require more time.
In my opinion, it’s sometimes harder for a woman to be taken seriously in this field, because of the number of women who DON’T take the job seriously. Alice had a great example of this when she mentioned the girls in the locker room who would be asking questions that just didn’t make any sense. Additionally, the ‘Women Breaking Boundaries’ article on blackboard focused on the issue of sex symbol vs. journalist. The article describes the hiring process of attractive females, who in turn do not have the knowledge to compete.
So have we made great strides? Yes. But it’s clear we still have a very long road ahead of us. Digit, Alice and Amanda were great examples of what can be achieved, and we can all use their stories as inspiration for our career paths.