“Be aggressive!”…Maybe easier said than done, especially for someone who’s never been in a locker room or asked a coach how they gave up six goals or had more followers than just family and friends…But to listen to Jared Carrabis tell it, what do you have to lose?….Carrabis and Joon Lee have resumes that 30 something(s) would die for… And yet Lee hasn’t finished college yet and Carrabis is just two years out!….
But being a “newcomer” doesn’t start after school anymore…There’s no reason to wait, your website is your signature nowadays and it should be just as distinct…….As should your Twitter account, your Linkedin page and according to Carrabis, even your MySpace page!
Colleges are supposed to be the places where students learn a craft, acquire the tools…I’m not sure it works that way anymore, not entirely…You already have a “voice”…It’s time to use it…I don’t think it’s any secret that i fell on the side of face to face reporting (as opposed to couch sitting)…I learned my craft in the locker rooms and editing rooms and always felt in order to be legitimate, i had to be there…But social media has changed everything and the public will eventually decide who succeeds and who fails…Even the athletes(and the teams) have taken to starting their own sites…One of these days the players will start critiquing the reporters!…”Can you believe the question that clown asked?” or “”Yeah, but did you see those shoes?”
I guess the point I’m trying to make is you’re already a newcomer (to world of being a digital native)…Is there any among you who hasn’t blogged or posted or commented or written for a site?…Well then, you’re a newcomer…Money isn’t going to be the deciding factor anymore…
I left it up to Lee to pass along some words of wisdom to the group, some of which are older than he is; “Sometimes you can feel in over your head, not necessarily knowing which way to turn. If you need something, ask for it.”
One of the best parts of this seminar series for me, as I’ve said before, is meeting new people (with new ideas)…Chad Finn included Carrabis and Lee on his 75 Best Twitter follows in Boston Sports and we’re lucky he did….We got interesting guests and I, to an extent, became a “newcomer” myself….Maybe just in attitude but I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks…

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Jake De Vries posted on April 5, 2016 at 10:56 pm
I think this seminar gives us all a pretty good, and definitely necessary, kick in the ass.
We got lectures by two guys who are more or less our peers. I looked through Jared and Joon’s bios, and I thought to myself, “You’ve got to be kidding. A 20-something from Barstool and a current student?! What can we learn from them?”
As it turns out, plenty.
While these guys are “newcomers” to sports journalism, they sure have put in a ton of leg work. They’ve been producing content on their own, seemingly nonstop since high school.
A lot of the advice that we’re given by professors, friends, and family sounds like, “Make connections and then ask them for a job!” OK maybe I put that a little bluntly, but it’s something along those lines. Many of us shove aside that advice, thinking we’ll sound out-of-line, intrusive, and annoying (or we just don’t want to take our parents’ advice). Joon offered up the same advice: “If you want something, ask for it … If it’s a no, it’s just a no.” And so did Jared: “The people who sit back and wait for opportunities won’t get them … Get over feeling needy and annoying.”
Hearing this advice our peers was no doubt a breath of fresh air. I had actually emailed a family friend that works in sports media the day before the seminar, hoping he could help me find work, and I was fighting off those worries of feeling annoying. Joon and Jared definitely helped me feel more confident in asking for help and using my connections to my advantage.
While Joon seemed very professional in his writing and the way he goes about gathering information and meeting people, Jared was a bit different. His approach reminded us that it’s OK to have a strong voice and to be yourself. He’s no doubt a Boston guy, who isn’t afraid to make jokes and tell things the way they are. He compared being a blogger to being a WWE wrestler, a character of sorts. By his words, he is not a journalist, which brings us to another interesting discussion that I know we’ll discuss this week.
What is journalism? Jared’s a writer … a blogger. In the way that social media has changed the world of sports media, it has become more and more acceptable for writers to have a voice. Similar to what we learned from our talk radio guests, if your opinion is polarizing, readers will want your opinion. The laws of journalism may have strict guidelines, but the laws of writing do not. Many of us are talented writers, so it seems that the key may simply be to find your audience. People don’t necessarily want to read hard news all the time. If you can offer up a hot take, and present it well, the readers will come to you, and then you’re in business.
Timmy Lagos posted on April 6, 2016 at 2:57 pm
I want to start off by saying I don’t think you’re putting it bluntly at all Jake, as I’ve had many professors, friends and family say those exact words to me when I tell them what my major is. While there are certainly other factors at play in finding a job in the field of communications or journalism, you can’t help but notice that a huge factor is knowing somebody or knowing somebody that knows somebody. I’m experiencing this first hand as I have been applying for numerous full-time jobs and I have begun to go back to past internships, family friends, or other contacts who have mentioned throughout my college career to come back and contact them once I was about to graduate. It’s a competitive world out there and I for one am going to use any connection I have to try and get a leg up. As Jared said, “be aggressive.”
In terms of the seminar, I took away a few major themes that I could relate to. One big one was when Jared talked about always having a chip on his shoulder and how it’s helped him to be as successful as he is today.
Being an athlete my entire life, I was like Jared in the fact that I always played with a chip on my shoulder, no matter how big or small the stage was. Sometimes it was when I was young and playing pickup baseball or basketball with my friends. If someone got picked ahead of me while making teams, I would always go out and do my best to outperform whoever it was that was picked over me. When it came to high school sports, anytime an opposing player or coach, or even my own coach, criticized or doubted me, I made it my job to go out and prove them wrong. I’m a competitive person, (some may so overly competitive) but it’s helped me get to where I am today. I take any type of criticism or doubt I get from people about my work, and I use it as motivation to get better the next time and prove them wrong. So while having that big chip on your shoulder can be harmful at times, it doesn’t have to be if you use it to motivate you to put out your best work. That’s what I try to do and it seems as though Jared does a good job of it as well.
Something else I took away deals with social media and it’s something I always look for when deciding who I want to follow on Twitter when it comes to sports reporters or personalities. I’m referring to Joon speaking about how he doesn’t only limit himself to baseball on his twitter account, but that he tweets about a vast array of other topics as well.
When it comes to following sports reporters or personalities on twitter, obviously the way they present news about my favorite teams or sports and the type of news they present is the number one reason I will follow them. But another big factor depends on how entertaining they are as well. I, for one, can’t stand the people who only tweet on a game day or night, live tweet the game, and then put up a recap or feature and that’s all you’ll hear from them until next game. Where’s the emotion? Where’s the humor? I absolutely love baseball writers who comment on the Super Bowl, or football writers who give their opinion on the Grammy’s, or a hockey writer who just likes to talk about everyday things. It shows you have a personality outside of your specific craft and that you are in touch with what’s going on in the sports world and general world around you. I think that makes a good journalist, being able to not only talk about what you specifically cover, but being in tune enough to talk about other things as well. Joon does that as well as Jared and I think it’s no coincidence that you find them on the 75 best twitter follows in Boston sports.
As Professor Shorr said, we are all newcomers now in a digital age of journalism. If we follow the paths of Jared and Joon, that is being aggressive, not being afraid to ask for help, and always using that chip on your shoulder (in a positive way), then I think we’ll be alright. And hey, maybe one day you’ll see your name on the list of the 75 best twitter followers in the state. That’s what we’re all aiming towards right?
Vanessa de Beaumont posted on April 6, 2016 at 3:14 pm
“For real, I’m kind of offended,” I remember saying to some classmates prior to the arrival of Jared Carrabis and Joon Lee.
After all, as Professor Shorr mentioned, both are essentially of the same age as I (Lee in particular), and, until that point, I felt that I, too, had built up some distinguishing experience.
My pride was shaken. My ego attempted to compensate. I immediately felt resistant.
Simply put, similar to Jake De Vries, I found it difficult to conceive that much value would be taken away from two hours of conversation.
But there was. Perhaps not from a technical or logistical standpoint, but certainly in attitude.
“People liking you is more important than people liking your work,” Carrabis stated – essentially conveying the truth that many (or possibly all) of us have come to realize. Contacts are vital. Networking is a necessity. It’s the sort of thing that COM has failed to convey. No matter how talented any one person is, who they know may very well trump what they know.
I, also like De Vries, was heartened to hear the merits of assertiveness – not only in the more vocal, opinionated branch of sports writing which Carrabis has pursued, but also in the “traditional” or “orthodox” side of work Lee operates within.
As a Houston-raised young woman, I can’t help but wonder if what Carrabis considers being aggressive has particularly succeeded because of the Boston market. Here, it’s likely that a little forwardness (and what I perceived as Carrabis’ “devil may care” style) goes a long way to earning respect. In Texas, a place where tradition, hospitality and almost painful politeness reign supreme, I don’t think it would be so well received.
Obviously, his remarks were aimed to inform us about our current location, but, seeing as many of us may in fact be sent to a variety of locations, perhaps even in the south, it’s a point I felt was worth making.
But it isn’t the only distinction of note. I found it particularly interesting that, whilst I am formulating my own definition of journalism, Carrabis stated his nonconformity with the label – while attempting to justify the legitimacy of Barstool Sports, no less.
Although I will hold most of my thoughts until our later discussion, I will say that his assessment and my own are not very different. I respect his “Bill Simmons approach,” for what it is – quality, entertaining commentary. And that’s fine! Just as De Vries pointed out, there is a need for that kind of content. While I can’t say that I share the same redeeming view of Barstool as Carrabis does, I firmly believe that, despite the fact that he isn’t directly interacting with players and coaches, the work he is doing is both meaningful and valid.
Lee, by contrast, is the quintessential, textbook journalist. While Carrabis shares a beer with David Price, Lee dutifully protects his tremendous Deflategate source. There’s no doubt that the work he does is of value and meaning (and his integrity is nearly impossible to call into question).
Both, however, met on one list, neither more worthy than the other.
To be honest, I wasn’t sure if these guys made me feel better or worse about my future in this field. I still have yet to decide.
On the one hand, I’m elated to know that there is acceptance of youth among more established professionals, something that Carrabis confirmed. However, I can’t help but feel that, despite my many efforts and bylines, I simply haven’t done enough.
Because while these two young men differed in style, they both share real tenacity, ambition and determination. I wonder if I could ever begin to approach their level of self-motivation.
Perhaps then, what I considered to be the most valuable aspect of this discussion was Lee’s noncommittal answer regarding his future. “I just want to write,” he laughed. For all of his constant grinding and hustling, he simply has yet to figure it all out.
A 20-year-old college student. Uncertain. Relatable. Imagine that.
I don’t have a resume like his. I don’t have all of the contacts. I don’t have a legion of Twitter followers. But I, too, just want to write. If arriving at Lee’s destination is my short-term goal, then that seems like a terrific start to getting there.
Andrew Battifarano/Judy Cohen posted on April 6, 2016 at 5:34 pm
Listen to the second episode of Smooth JA! https://soundcloud.com/andrew-battifarano/smooth-ja-episode-2
Alex/Alex/Zach posted on April 6, 2016 at 5:42 pm
Listen to Episode 8 of The Shorr Report here!
https://soundcloud.com/user-872962998/the-shorr-report-episode-8
#COYS
Sarah Kirkpatrick posted on April 6, 2016 at 8:25 pm
I’m splitting off from Judy and Andrew again this week because I’ve managed to come down with a convenient flu bug that took my voice away somewhat — not exactly conducive to a podcast format.
Nonetheless, ever since I heard that Joon was going to be one of our panelists this season, I was completely thrilled for him to visit our class. I consider Joon to be one of my very good friends, and he and I communicate pretty frequently about sports, the business of journalism, and the challenges within it. I’ve been joking about how funny it was that the kid I hired two-and-a-half years ago when I was Sports Editor at The Daily Free Press is now speaking to my class — but as much as I joke about how I’m his former boss, I will forever be proud of everything Joon has accomplished, because he’s earned every ounce of it.
I heard plenty of whispers of “who is this guy?” when Prof. Shorr asked if Joon was even 21 yet and he replied, “no.” I understand everyone’s hesitation, to an extent, but I think it’s a bit premature to be judgmental or annoyed by Joon when he’s worked so hard to get where he is today. I’m frequently inspired by how willing Joon is to reach out to people, which he reiterated multiple times during the seminar. He’s been able to get some of my favorite journalists on his podcast, which wouldn’t be possible had he not simply asked. Like everyone has been saying, it’s pretty admirable how Joon is willing to let his guard down and just asks when he needs help. That’s certainly something I’ve been trying to learn — I hate asking people for favors, and I hate feeling like I’m inconveniencing people. But it’s reassuring to hear from both Joon and Jared Carrabis — whom I’ve sort of neglected to mention at this point, maybe just a bit of a friendship bias here? — that the worst you’re going to get is a no, and you just have to keep hustling.
Something else Joon pointed out that I think is crucial — and a lot of us take for granted — is how he feels very fortunate to be in a position where he can get away with not being paid for his work. He, and many of us, are in a position where the experience is what you’re hoping to gain at this point, and money comes secondary. That was a minor talking point from him, but something that struck me nonetheless, that we should feel grateful for the opportunities that we’ve had to this point and take full advantage of what we’ve been given.
As for various other takeaways, I think both Jared and Joon reflect an important shift in sports media — a more internet, viral-based focus. There’s a way to build a following on Twitter, without even necessarily the traditional journalism education, as is in Jared’s case, and anyone can build their brand with the right amount of work being put into it. Jared also showed me that you can be both a fan and good reporter. While I’m still hesitant about the merits of Barstool as a whole, I think Jared’s doing a lot of things the right way. I thought it was interesting, too, that he made the distinction of being a “writer” instead of a “journalist” — I think the label of “journalist” comes with a lot of implications that Jared noted he doesn’t necessarily fit by rarely going into the clubhouse, and I think it’s good when people recognize their limits and strengths and find a position that is comfortable for them. For Joon, that position comes from using his extensive connections and traditional media base. For Jared, that’s using his extensive knowledge of the Red Sox and their history plus his personality to build a name for himself. There are plenty of avenues and destinations, but the common denominator is hard work.
Rachel Blauner posted on April 7, 2016 at 10:57 am
Jared Carrabis is a true Massachusetts guy.
During the entire seminar, listening to him talk about his experiences- how he had to fight disapproval, how he started his blog from scratch, and how he never forgets the people who tried to break him down- he reminded me of every Boston guy I grew up with.
He had that Boston attitude, which was refreshing and real. He lived and breathed Boston Red Sox, and when he made the joke about Fever Pitch, I could not help but laugh. He reminded me of why I love living in Boston so much, the people and their love for the city.
Obviously, I am bias. I grew up in the South Shore. Every year for my birthday, my dad and I went to Celtics games. Once my brother was older, we went to a Patriot’s practice to take in Tom Brady’s awesomeness. Boston Halftime Pizza was our favorite spot after leaving TD Garden, and still is today. Now, I am an athlete in Boston.
This leads me to the question: does growing up in Boston give me, along with every other Massachusetts journalist or broadcast professional, an advantage to cover Boston sports?
As Jared said, I think the answer is 100% yes- if you’re writing for a Boston fan-based outlet.
Jared writes for Barstool covering the Sox and has an award winning Red Sox blog. He states his opinion about how the team and certain players are doing. He knows the history of the Sox, past and present players, World Series wins, and an incredible amount of stats. He found his niche.
But, what if he had to switch to a different sport, a different team?
Is he at a disadvantage? I don’t know. I think if I have to cover sports teams other than in Boston, which I will at some point, it’s going to be a hard transition. I have watched Boston sports my whole life. Eventually, I want to work my way up and end up in Boston, but I know that at first, that might not be a possibility.
I guess a lesson I took away from the seminar is that, like Jared, you have to find your own thing. But, it may not happen right away. The fact that Jared almost entered the military instead of writing/blogging was eye-opening for me. He is only a few years older than most of us, and he has already made life changing decisions. This gave me hope that even if I don’t find my “thing” or my dream job right out of college, IT’S OK!
Do I want to eventually end up reporting in Boston, yes. It’s the city that I love and it backs the team’s that I grew up watching. It may not be my first job, or my second, or third, but it’s my end goal. It probably will not be easy, I’ll probably take steps back in order to go forward. Hopefully someday, that goal will become a reality. I have to keep that Boston attitude, regardless of adversity that will arise.
Like Jared, and other home grown Bostonians, I am a true Bay Stater, and that will never change.
Gabbie Chartier posted on April 7, 2016 at 11:12 am
To kind of piggyback off of what Jake and Vanessa were saying, I agree that this seminar was a huge wake up call.
I remember before the seminar started, I was talking to Ashley and we were both confused as to how having such young guests was beneficial to our learning about the profession of sports journalism. However, once Jared Carrabis and Joon Lee started talking, it became apparent that we had a lot we could learn from them.
Joon is younger than I am and Jared is only a couple of years older, but their resumes are impressive for their age. Both Joon and Jared talked about getting involved with blogging at an early age. Joon had an internship when he was still in high school and Jared had been a Red Sox blogger back in the prehistoric MySpace days… so essentially, a really long time ago.
Oftentimes aspiring journalists, including myself, feel intimidated to put themselves out there. I always thought, “Why should I write about it? Why would anyone want to listen to me when they could listen to seasoned professionals in the business?” I learned from Joon and Jared that this is not the case. There are people out there who will read what you’re posting or Tweeting. Hell, Jared and Joon wouldn’t be two of the “75 Best Twitter Follows in Boston Sports” if someone along the way did not read their content. Even if no one reads it, it doesn’t mean young journalists shouldn’t try. Anything we write is content for our resume. As Jared said, “People who sit back and wait for opportunities will never get those opportunities.” I learned: be aggressive and make your own opportunities. And when those opportunities do come, make sure you have a kick-ass portfolio, whether it be like Joon’s profile on Mookie Betts or Jared’s Red Sox podcast.
This week’s seminar was a massive wake up call for me, as I said earlier. Joon and Jared were nice enough to come offer our class advice, but they are still our peers. This means that these are the kinds of people we will be competing for jobs with this year or next. That in and of itself was the biggest thing I learned from the seminar. It inspired me to beef up my resume and my Twitter presence. I actually now have set the goal for myself to start tweeting at least once a day about some development in Boston sports. I also have taken it upon myself to start reading some of Joon and Jared’s work, hoping to learn something. I’m sure I will.
Overall, this seminar taught me it’s okay to be aggressive. As young journalists, we cannot wait for opportunities to come our way or be afraid to ask for them in fear of being told no. We also can’t be afraid to ask in fear of being thought of as annoying. I’d much rather be annoying and employed than not-annoying and jobless. As Joon said, “You never want to feel regret that you wanted to do something but were too afraid to ask for it.” Preach, Joon.
Ashley Boitz posted on April 7, 2016 at 11:19 am
Last weeks seminar brought me back to my elementary school days on the playground. The loud bullies always get first pick for teams in kickball.
In Boston sports, Jared Carrabis sort of represents that loud, outspoken, and aggressive bully. He has great experience; there is no question in my mind. However, Jared to me falls under the typical Boston attitude stereotype. The way Jared presents himself is what people usually think of Bostonians. They are loud, aggressive, and always on the defense. But, I’m not sure a totally agree with his approach. I am born and raised in Minnesota and personally I think, the term “Minnesota nice” is not far off. I am not sure if Jared meant the only way to make it with a sort of “chip on shoulder attitude” just applied to the Boston sports market, but I could honestly never see myself doing that. That’s just not the person I am. But then was he implying that I wouldn’t be successful? I think there are different ways to go about your career and getting what you want. I think the most important thing is to stay true to who you are, and for me, that’s being humble and kind.
“You have to be aggressive – people who sit back and wait for opportunities never get those,” said Joon Lee. I too agree, but I don’t believe that being aggressive gives one an opportunity to bring others down.
When I think of Joon lee all that runs through my head, “ Ashley, you’re an old lady. Time for a little kick in the ass and get going.” Being 21 I was truly shocked to hear that our guest speaker was only 20 and had a resume longer than a CVS receipt. I mean, it went on for days, but not with just rinky-dink jobs, but with very credible jobs in highly desired organizations. I think the difference between Joon and I, besides age is, he knows what he wants. Honestly, I still do not know exactly what I want or where I want to go when I graduate. Some people know already, that they want to be play-by-play people or they want to be a beat reporter. I just still don’t know yet.
I am not sure if that is good or bad, but like Professor Shorr mentioned, “colleges are supposed to be the place where students learn a craft and acquire the tools.” I too agree where it’s not like that anyone. Students soon learn after coming to college, it’s a black hole of reading, writing, exams, and group projects that never seem to end. As a transfer student I have felt my college experience has been a big game of catch up. College have set curriculums that have to be followed in order to graduate in four years with a degree in which every subject you have chosen. However, there is not much room for trial and error. If you decide you don’t want this to continue to pursue a certain major halfway through, that’s more money spent and more time it will take you to graduate.
I think overall the main difference between the guest speakers and me personally is they knew exactly what they wanted at a young age and started practicing as soon as they could. Jared wrote a book when he was 19 years old, that’s very impressive. He wanted to write and tell stories about sports. As did Joon, they both searched for any opportunity to practice. The main idea of this discussion to me is, when you want something go get it. Don’t be passive, ask for opportunities, and practice every chance possible.
Emily Tillo posted on April 7, 2016 at 11:35 am
“Create situations. Don’t wait for situations.” Jared Carrabis told our class at the end of last week’s seminar.
This was the quote that stood out to me the most from the conversation that night.
Why?
Because it reminded me (and I hope it reminded all of us) that I always have to be my biggest advocate in the cutthroat world of sports journalism/business. No one is going to hand me anything—I have to work for it. However, it’s not enough to say that my hard work will speak for itself. Doing the work is only half the battle—I have to be willing to defend and promote it.
As Professor Shorr alluded to in his post, it’s up to each of us to not only build but also to promote our personal brands. And that begins now, not after we enter the working world.
And that’s exactly what Jared Carrabis and Joon Lee did—and continue to do. Just look at Lee’s website—what a cool idea to incorporate his signature onto his homepage and make his brand stand out.
It’s not being selfish to push for yourself and ask for what you want. It’s being competitive. Just like the athletes they write about, sports journalists, like Carrabis, Lee, and many of our previous seminar guests, are competitors. They won’t back down without a fight. They’re willing to put in the time, effort, and—as Joon put it, “reps”—to keep moving forward and get to where they want to go.
Everyone’s career goals may be different, but I’ve noticed that the common trait that unites so many of our guests throughout this seminar is grit. They’ll do whatever it takes to gain experience, enhance their careers, shake the right person’s hand, and, at the end of the day, get the job done.
They’ve learned to balance being liked but also not caring about what other people think, which is a very hard thing to do. Jared admitted, “You have to get over the fact that you are being impolite or rude,” when answering the question of how he got over the hurdle of being a newcomer. However, he immediately followed that up by stressing the importance of “having people like you.”
Personally, striking this balance between likeability and assertiveness is SO much easier for guys, hands down. As a female entering the male-dominated golf industry, I know I’m going to face a lot of unspoken bias. It is going to be a lot more difficult for me to be liked AND—as Jared put it—“aggressive,” without running the risk of being called “bossy” or “demanding.”
In my corporate communication class we recently read a Fortune.com article titled, “The abrasiveness trap: high-achieving men and women are described differently in reviews.” The article discusses the role gender plays in employee feedback and cited some interesting results from a study analyzing performance reviews. The results? Women received more critical feedback than their male counterparts (87.9% versus 58.9%). Additionally, while most men were given “constructive suggestions” for “additional skills they can develop,” women were told to “pipe down.” As an example, one female employee received this review, “You can come across as abrasive sometimes. I know you don’t mean to, but you need to pay attention to your tone.”
What’s wrong with being a bit abrasive? As Carrabis said, “You can’t just be complacent and blend in. You have to know that you belong and if someone wants to challenge that, have at it.”
This is the attitude I must continue to adopt and work on. Obviously, I’m going to stay true to myself and my morals/values, but I also aim to be more aware of this bias. I must be unafraid to push for what I want, because who else will?
I like the way Jen McCaffrey, MassLive’s Red Sox beat reporter and often the only female in the Sox’s clubhouse, put it, “Keep grinding.”
That’s exactly what I’m going to do.
Taylor DiChello posted on April 7, 2016 at 11:37 am
Usually when a seminar guest arrives to speak, I am intimidated by their success in the field because they are always where I want to see myself someday, with no clue how I’m going to get there.
This week was extra intimidating, to say the least. To have two very young people with some of the most extensive resumes we’ve seen all semester would intimidate our other guests as well. A big theme from our seminars is the passion we see evoked from the speakers for their jobs. Joon and Jared are no exception. They started writing on blogs and getting internships in high school, long before I knew what I wanted to do for a living.
But, they didn’t do it to build their resumes and make themselves more noticed… they did it because their passion for sports and writing made them want to do it. It’s the same reason I wake up for a 6AM lift every other day and look forward to going to practices. It’s not easy work and it’s not even the most rewarding since it’s a slow process to get to be where you want to be, but I do it everyday just like they do.
I can’t say I don’t have a passion for journalism or for writing, but for the time being, my main passions lie in the sport I do and that’s perfectly acceptable. Their passions were always in writing and journalism and blogging, so that’s what they did.
Even with their extensive resumes, it was comforting to know that even they had not gotten evry job opportunity that presented itself. Jared expressed his resentment for people who never gave him a chance, even though he had already had so much experience in blogging. It just reiterates the fact that networking is huge and it’s really “about who you know versus what you know”, according to Jared.
Even Joon, while he’s certainly focused on his future, still just wants time for friends and a social life while being a writer. It’s important to me to find a good balance in life between academics, athletics and friends and family and Joon’s success is an example that work isn’t everything in life and that we can find balance, even as newcomers.
We are often bombarded with the thought that we have to give every single minute of our lives to our jobs in order to be successful, and while it’s important to show that you’re indispensable to your employers, it also important to have a life outside of writing so that we don’t get burned out.
We’re all in this seminar because we’re passionate about writing and journalism and we’re one of the lucky few students who can say we’re really excited about doing our jobs in the real world, but why wait until after college to chase our dreams?
Jared and Joon didn’t and they’re the most experienced “newcomers” in the field, an oxymoron at its finest.
julie aiello posted on April 7, 2016 at 11:44 am
I wasn’t able to attend class when Jared Carrabis and Joon Lee visited, and I can see I missed out. The ages of both panelists coupled with their resumes are quite impressive.
Based on what my classmates wrote, Joon seemed intent on just wanting to write, and had a passion for doing so in any way possible. I admire that tenacity and drive and take it as the motivational push that I need to start marketing myself as a writer. Being in college still, I think Joon has really set out to make sure he puts himself in a position to get what he wants out of a career, and I have the utmost respect for that.
Jared Carrabis, on the other hand, I have a tough time speaking about, mostly because of some of his writing on Barstool Sports, a website for which I have little respect. Professor Shorr mentioned in his post that:
“Colleges are supposed to be the places where students learn a craft, acquire the tools…I’m not sure it works that way anymore, not entirely.”
I can see how Carrabis might have bypassed learning some of the craft of writing. Although he stated that he is a writer, not a journalist, I find it difficult for many sports fans or the average American reader to decipher between the two, especially with the influx of freelance bloggers taking over salaried sports reporters’ positions in newsrooms. Because of this, I feel Jared has more responsibility as a journalist than he thinks.
Unfortunately, Carrabis has chosen to use his position as a writer to cover more than just the Red Sox. In a piece published on the same day he paid a visit to our class, March 31st, he wrote about a woman who schooled a guy who asked her to name all the NL East teams. After the woman did so and told off the guy in the process, Carrabis had this to say:
“Okay, before we get into this story, let’s just address the elephant in the room. This girl has MONSTER titties. Now, to the text exchange. I’ve dated a girl who was a huge baseball fan before, and I’ve dated a girl who couldn’t name a single baseball player from any point in time. Honestly, I kind of prefer the non-baseball fan, because the baseball fan girlfriend is always going to try to impress you with her sports knowledge, and make everything a competition, because of some sort of inferiority complex, when guys really don’t care about that stuff. No guy is sitting there being like, wow, she knew that Harmon Killebrew was the 1969 AL MVP. I wish she’d 69 my face off right now. And the ex who was the huge baseball fan thought that her sports knowledge was earning her bonus points or something. You know what earns you bonus points? Having monster titties.”
http://www.barstoolsports.com/baseball/this-girls-tweet-is-going-viral-because-she-swerved-a-dude-by-naming-all-the-teams-in-the-nl-east/
I wish I didn’t have to use that quote verbatim because it’s vile and offensive, but in order to make my stance on Carrabis clear, I felt I needed to do so. Whether this piece was his idea or someone higher up asking him to write about it for “hits”, Carrabis’ words did an injustice to females– sports fans and journalists included—everywhere. Not only does Carrabis tell the woman in the article that her knowledge of sports will be a roadblock to any guy she wants to date, but he tells her a physical part of her body is more important than her love and knowledge of sports. What message does that send to younger, adolescent male audiences? Will they grow up thinking this is just “the way things are” and to go with it? I can only imagine that this piece was written for a specific group within the male audience, and that this would produce “hits” for Barstool Sports.
This got me thinking, where is the line between catering to your audience and tearing other groups of people down? Females in general and in the media (especially sports media) have a tough time as it is, so what drives someone like Jared to make it more difficult for women to be taken seriously? To me, this helps explain why there has actually been a .6 % decline in the number of females in newsrooms since 1999 and that the 2012 AP Sports Editors Racial and Gender Report gave both the total staff and sports editors an “F” rating for gender inclusion. There is this mentality in society, I believe, that women are not meant to like or report on sports, which Carrabis’ piece reinforces. In my opinion, it’s people like Carrabis who, although he deserves some credit for his ambition and tenacity at such a young age, will continue to smear groups of people and still be lauded for his hard work and dedication.
Doyle Somerby posted on April 7, 2016 at 11:45 am
Take advantage of any and all opportunities. Be aggressive. Those are the two things that I took away from the great seminar last Thursday night.
Seeing Joon up there as some one that is not even allowed into a bar past 10, it makes a person take a look in the mirror and self-reflect. His endless bio and his passionate tweets, he is a self motivator and challenges for the next best thing. It just goes to show that, no matter who you are and who you write for, if you go about your business in the right manner people take notice. The point that Joon reiterated about twelve times was: take and all opportunities because practice makes perfect. For some reason, people in our generation want to give up when they are denied by the “Big and cool company” instead of working there way up. Joon is the poster boy for success is dictated solely on your own.
Another thing that jumped out to me was something that tied into a seminar we had with the Red Sox beat reporter Tim Britton. He talked about the interesting relationships you can build with baseball players. They are out going and will chat for as long as a reporter wants. The catch is, you have to be interesting and relate to them. He talked about how players normally build there relationships while they are in the minors and then after that, whenever that reporter needs a story he will sit down and talk because it is more a friendship than a job. I bring this up because Joon, referenced that exact notion when he talked about his experience with Mookie Betts. They connected before he was in Boston with the big club, and started talking because they had the age in common and music. After that Joon used his resources and wrote one of the better stories he had because of the relationship he built while being at a triple-A game. There are opportunities everywhere and we need to take note and stop over looking the “average jobs”.
Jared on the other hand was a Bostonian. He was hysterical and exactly what you expect from a Barstool guy. I enjoyed his presence in class and he did have a great message. Be aggressive, people will take notice. If it does happen the first time do not give up (or join the military). He followed his heart and did what he loved growing up and he found himself working a great job for barstool and having a published book. Personally, I like the idea of Jared’s job. Working for barstool would be extremely fun, and if I was a bit more witty or funny, I would try and write for barstool one day.
In closing; be aggressive, practice, and don’t overlook any opportunities.
Justin Akiva posted on April 7, 2016 at 12:04 pm
“You’re are already newcomers,” writes Professor Shorr in his blog this week. I agree with Professor Shorr but I think that the title newcomer comes even earlier than college. Jared Carrabis, of Barstool Sports, said he started writing Red Sox Nation when he was 16 years old on Myspace. Today, it is easier to write and become famous on the internet that the term “newcomer” should come into play before college. Not many places will take on interns at 13 years old, but it does not mean we can’t start the process there. I feel that as soon as you get a social media account or an iPhone, which happens at 8 years old for some kids today, you can become the newcomer. You have the ability to create something that people can really enjoy and can go viral all over the world.
However, that doesn’t mean you are only a newcomer because you create something. You can be a newcomer just by making connections. Carrabis explained that at 18, he was, “shaking hands and collecting business cards.” Today, half the battle is who you know and that’s exactly what Jared is talking about. All that shaking hands and collecting business cards can happen at a fairly young age, and if you’re only 13 years old, it may not mean much to the person on the other side of the handshake, but it is still part of becoming a newcomer. Once you know that person, you have the ability to take a huge leap just by wishing them a “happy holiday” once in awhile. If there is one thing I definitely learned at Boston University, it’s that people always remember the little things and something as simple as an email can go a long way. Making connections is part of the process and it can happen at any age, so in my mind, you can become a newcomer as soon as that happens. But you have to grab that opportunity when you get it and ride it out as long as you can.
This seminar had some fascinating ideas on newcomers and I found both Joon Lee, of the Cornell Daily Sun and Carrabis’ stories very interesting, but they were giving us advice that I felt I have heard time and time again. I am not trying to say I am better than anyone, but I do feel that I have been a newcomer just as long as these guys. That’s not to say I don’t have 100 more mistakes to make or I don’t need to learn anything else, but I feel like everyone was so blown away by these guys when they have the ability to do exactly what these guys did. You just have to do it like they did, by asking and trying. I just want to repeat that I am not trying to say I am better than anyone else, but like these guys, as soon as I walked into high school, I was approaching everyone for a job or internship and because of it I was able to run all the content for my schools MSG Varsity program and intern for the New York Cosmos in the summers going into my junior and senior years. Some people may have more opportunities than others, but everyone has an opportunity even if it’s just a small crack in a window. Like Professor Shorr explained, it can start as soon as you have your own website, Twitter page, or LinkedIn page.
Carrabis and Lee were 100 percent right and they made me feel great because by listening to them, I could feel how much they loved their work. It was not the crazy hype they were getting or the advice that they gave or their impressive resumes that made me enjoy them, it was the love that they showed for what they do and the amount of work they put in to get where they are now. They are obviously not at their pinnacle yet, but they proved the message Professor Shorr has reiterated this whole semester and they have done it at such a young age, “it beats working for a living.” They have achieved a place where they can already say it, but it does not mean they are the only ones who can do this. Many people will have to work their way up and it may not be as far, but it is possible and not based on luck. If you have the same love, passion, and the ability to ask like these guys then you can make it that far. They worked hard and were fearless in their approach so they succeeded. This is what makes them so great and they should have made everyone in the class realize that they can do this too. Carrabis and Lee definitely have talent and amazing skills, but they should not be treated as mythical gods because of it or how long their resumes are. They should be applauded for all the hard work and love they have for what they do. How bad do you want it? Ask Carrabis and Lee and they will give you the right answer.
“I am a writer not a journalist,” Carrabis said. So if Carrabis isn’t a journalist, at least according to him, does that mean he shouldn’t be part of the word journalism? Professor Shorr asked the class to define what journalism is, but I feel like there can be 100 ways to define it. So instead of thinking about a working definition for the rest of my life, I am just going to lay it out there. I think that after listening to all of these lectures, journalism is the act of getting news to someone in any way, shape, or form. If someone tweets, writes, says, or posts something that’s newsworthy or hasn’t been heard before, that is journalism. I know it sounds stupid and you have to go deeper and answer the question what is newsworthy, but that is exactly what I think journalism is. If I am gaining knowledge about something, I feel like it can be considered journalism. It sounds stupid, vague, and a way to get out of answering this question, but that is truly what I think it means. It doesn’t mean I think anyone can be a good journalist, but that’s another question that can have 100 definitions and would take me forever to answer so I am not even going to try and get into it.
Stephanie Tran posted on April 7, 2016 at 1:23 pm
Age is just a number right? For Jared Carrabis and Joon Lee it certainly is.
Some of my classmates above mentioned going into the seminar feeling slightly offended or thinking these “newcomers” wouldn’t offer really anything useful to say because of how young they were. C’mon, I really didn’t find it offensive or even care about their age. Frankly, I was more in awe with how much they had accomplished in such a short amount of time and was open to hearing how they were able to do it. Jared and Joon are both young professionals that have a tremendous amount of experience that blow our resumes out of the water.
However, during the seminar it quickly dawned on me that Jared and Joon have very differing styles on how to approach the sports journalism industry. On one spectrum you have Joon, who’s not even 21 yet, telling us to be nice to everyone you meet and work with, as well as to ask for help along the way. He still has hope that he’ll be able to balance a work and social life, of which Jared quipped “doesn’t exist.”
Then you have Jared, a guy who said he always has a “chip on his shoulder” and will always remember the negative things people have to say about him and use it against them in the future. He’s aggressive and your typical “I’m going to take none of your bullshit” Bostonian.
I guess for me I lean more towards Joon’s approach only because I’m somebody who was raised to treat others with respect and kindness. I’m not saying being aggressive doesn’t work to get what you want, because I have seen it forward careers, but that’s just not in my nature. I don’t think that means I can’t further my career in the same way. There’s so many paths you can take and sometimes it’s just about getting lucky.
With that said, I guess I’m on the opposite side of most of my classmates who enjoyed Jared as a guest speaker. Maybe because I particularly don’t like Barstool Sports, but I think Julie brings up a good point in the article she shared. Yeah, his job is to be witty and poke fun at stories, but that doesn’t mean he has to be vile and offensive. Why can’t we praise this woman for her knowledge of sports, instead of saying it could be a roadblock to potential guys she’ll date? I guarantee guys don’t get the same treatment.
In this seminar Gabbie asked how to go about forming relationships with players without it seeming inappropriate. Jared mentioned he has grabbed drinks with David Price, but if a woman was to do that, people may get the wrong idea. Jared and Joon, of course, can’t speak from experience, but did mention that it’s just part of the business. Expect to be hit on.
No. I can’t accept that. Yes, we’ve been trained and taught how to be professional, but when can we live in a world where men and women were equal and when there’s no double-standard looming above us? Realistically I know this is probably impossible to achieve, but it’s just frustrating to hear that women just have to “accept” that players are immature. No thank you.
There’s no shed of doubt that these individuals are motivated and dedicated at what they’re doing. Jared wrote a book at the age of 19 and Joon has worked for outlets a kid could dream about. I respect their careers and their ambitions.
If you know what you want, don’t wait for it. Make it happen.
Natalie Robson posted on April 7, 2016 at 2:11 pm
I like what Jake said about this seminar being a “kick in the ass”—I think this entire semester has been one giant kick in the ass. Every time I turn around people are scooping up journalism jobs here and there just to get a foot in the door—oftentimes in areas where they really have no interest in going forward, but hey a start is a start.
One thing I took away from this seminar is the importance of grinding—the guys that work the hardest are going to have more and more opportunities come across their radar. I respect that. If you don’t put in the hours outside of the classroom or outside of projects—what’s the point? Now is the time to put your face out there while you are still getting an education. I think that every single one of us is prepared to do this because BU has given us the skills and tools that can carry us into a successful direction. BU has given us the tools and confidence to succeed in the real world and take on jobs that post-grads take while we are still in school.
That BU boast aside, I think now is just as important/easier than ever to make a splash in journalism. We always talk about how this digital age of social media has changed traditional journalism, but when you look at Joon and Jared, they were able to get their starts in journalism from social media, they got noticed by big companies and names because of their online presence. This is such a fantastic platform that I think as young people, this is our opportunity for a foot in the door. Other than a device, online positing is so cheap and sometimes virtually free. Also, you have a great audience in your friends that are connected to you on these sites—this provides an endless amount of opportunity to get your stuff out there, or just to get reps. Joon made a good point there too. He said that he uses every opportunity that someone extends him as another rep. The more practice the better—just like in sports. After all this is sports journalism, right?
Dakota Woodworth posted on April 7, 2016 at 2:50 pm
So, it’s okay to be nervous and afraid, at first. You just can’t stay nervous and afraid or else you’re not going to go anywhere. Don’t be a jerk. And just… start. Joon Lee is two years younger than me and has a longer and more impressive resume than me and a lot (all) of my friends graduating this year. Jared Carrabis had done more journalistically when he was 19 than I have at 22. This weeks panel was a wake up call.
I still don’t know what I want to end up doing with my journalism degree. All I know is that I love writing, and I love sports. I also know that I’m graduating in a few weeks and have no idea what direction to go in. Hearing Lee and Carrabis talk about how they just started when they were young, writing about what they saw and what they heard people talking about. Carrabis started his Red Sox blog before he even had an audience, when he was 16. Lee continues to write for multiple platforms while pursuing an Ivy League degree at Cornell. They both just started out by finding their voice and writing.
Throughout the panel I had to continuously remind myself that I’ll be okay – probably – and that I had a lot of other stuff going on when I was in the last few years of high school and through four years of college. I envy people like Jared and Joon. They knew what they were good at and passionate about right away and got to work towards it to get where they are now. They get to turn it into a career. Hockey has been my passion since before I can even remember, and it has lead me to the most amazing opportunities and I wouldn’t change it for the world. But… as a female hockey player, I can only go so far. I can’t play for a living. Women’s hockey post-college is much better than it used to be, I can ‘go pro’ and play in a good competitive league with great players, but it’s not the NHL.
So, I need to find something else. Looking at Jared and Joon, I was jealous. They worked so hard to get where they are today and still have amazing places to go towards. They have direction, which is what I’ve been looking for. Jared and Joon are a very scary, intimidating, inspiring wake up call.
Dakota Randall posted on April 7, 2016 at 11:10 pm
Disagree with Venessa – agressiveness isn’t a boston exclusive
While I agre with Frank – college is huge
While I admire Jared and Joon for all they’ve accomplished in such a short amount of time, I think it’s important to remember that it’s not very common that their particular style of reporting always works as a career path. In Joon’s case, his resume is great, and as he said, he’s in a position where he doesn’t need make money. Well I am. But I except that at sometime very soon, his resume will translate into a legitimately consistent, decent paying job.
As for Jared, his situaiton is unique. Barstool is unprecedented. The ability to make that type of money while maintaining that amount of creative freedom is incredible, and hopefully will continue to develop and exist outside of just Barstool sports.
I think Jared is selling himself short when he says that he’s not a journalist. He uses a medium and style of his choice, to produce and communicate a story to an audience, through his specific voice. That to me makes him a journalist. We can argue about the quality of his work, but for me, he absolutely falls under the umbrella of journalism.
There are a couple things in the blog / comment that i really disagreed with this week. Vanessa claims that Jared’s aggressive attitude and style may not translate to other areas of the country. Well if you’re fortunate enough to get the job you want by being passive, good for you. But I, for one, cannot imagine a scenario where aggressive, determined, and motivated behavior does not get you where you want in life. The phrase “you can be anything you want if you work hard enough” is not only repeated in Boston.
I understand the point about Texas. I’ve been to the west a few times, I’ve been to many places in America, and outside of the country. Motivation, determination, and an unwavering desire to achieve your goals always translates. Maybe some places are a litter different, but you can’t take that chance.
While I agree with Franks point about students to really prioritize their work and image outside of the classroom, I personally find college to be an invaluable resource. You can be as motivated and talent as you want, but in the end, and Jared spoke to this, it comes down to who you know. Get out their and shake hands. Send thank you notes. Dress nice. Be professional, but also fun to be around. Never say no.
I’ve been fortunate enough to have a mentor at the Boston Globe (Kevin Paul Dupont) who has opened some doors for me that I thought would always be closed. I’ve had interviews and opportunities I’ve only ever dreamed of, and I’m only a few months in. Through him, I’ve met additional resources in the industry, and have started to utilize them just as much as I have Dupont.
As both Jared and Joon talked about, people need to like you. People have to want to work with you. This may seem like a snooty thing to say, but approaching this industry with the an extremely closed-minded approach about what journalism is and who journalists are, isn’t going to do you any favors. Be creative. Think outside the box. Be an interesting person. Stay true to your beliefs and and principles, but don’t be afraid to branch out. In this particular profession, your voice is going to determine your fate. Don’t be afraid to use it. Make it distinct.
Dakota Randall posted on April 7, 2016 at 11:10 pm
Disagree with Venessa – agressiveness isn’t a boston exclusive
While I agre with Frank – college is huge
While I admire Jared and Joon for all they’ve accomplished in such a short amount of time, I think it’s important to remember that it’s not very common that their particular style of reporting always works as a career path. In Joon’s case, his resume is great, and as he said, he’s in a position where he doesn’t need make money. Well I am. But I except that at sometime very soon, his resume will translate into a legitimately consistent, decent paying job.
As for Jared, his situaiton is unique. Barstool is unprecedented. The ability to make that type of money while maintaining that amount of creative freedom is incredible, and hopefully will continue to develop and exist outside of just Barstool sports.
I think Jared is selling himself short when he says that he’s not a journalist. He uses a medium and style of his choice, to produce and communicate a story to an audience, through his specific voice. That to me makes him a journalist. We can argue about the quality of his work, but for me, he absolutely falls under the umbrella of journalism.
There are a couple things in the blog / comment that i really disagreed with this week. Vanessa claims that Jared’s aggressive attitude and style may not translate to other areas of the country. Well if you’re fortunate enough to get the job you want by being passive, good for you. But I, for one, cannot imagine a scenario where aggressive, determined, and motivated behavior does not get you where you want in life. The phrase “you can be anything you want if you work hard enough” is not only repeated in Boston.
I understand the point about Texas. I’ve been to the west a few times, I’ve been to many places in America, and outside of the country. Motivation, determination, and an unwavering desire to achieve your goals always translates. Maybe some places are a litter different, but you can’t take that chance.
While I agree with Franks point about students to really prioritize their work and image outside of the classroom, I personally find college to be an invaluable resource. You can be as motivated and talent as you want, but in the end, and Jared spoke to this, it comes down to who you know. Get out their and shake hands. Send thank you notes. Dress nice. Be professional, but also fun to be around. Never say no.
I’ve been fortunate enough to have a mentor at the Boston Globe (Kevin Paul Dupont) who has opened some doors for me that I thought would always be closed. I’ve had interviews and opportunities I’ve only ever dreamed of, and I’m only a few months in. Through him, I’ve met additional resources in the industry, and have started to utilize them just as much as I have Dupont.
As both Jared and Joon talked about, people need to like you. People have to want to work with you. This may seem like a snooty thing to say, but approaching this industry with the an extremely closed-minded approach about what journalism is and who journalists are, isn’t going to do you any favors. Be creative. Think outside the box. Be an interesting person. Stay true to your beliefs and and principles, but don’t be afraid to branch out. In this particular profession, your voice is going to determine your fate. Don’t be afraid to use it. Make it distinct.